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@timwat wise words 👏🏻 Actually by "it's gonna happen" I didn't mean being a professional jazz musician, let alone earning money with it. Luckily I've had a good career in the IT, so music has always been for my own pleasure, and to a certain extent for fame (hypothetically speaking, because it never happened), so to speak 😀 It is probably childish and even superficial, and has to do with certain vanity I am a victim of, but I imagined being a good jazz pianist would add yet another reason people would have a respect for me. The thing is I never even reached the point to understand whether that may be true or not, because, being slightly OCD-driven and a perfectionist I realized I was too mediocre, so I ultimately gave up jazz. I returned to my old love, classical music and of course it's even more difficult to impress someone with classical music nowadays because there are so many great pianists. But unlike jazz, I just have fun when I master a certain classical work and play it for myself. With jazz even I wasn't having fun myself... Reading the above I feel uneasy, to be honest. Sounds like a bit too much personal information for sharing on a public forum... 😕

If I can go back in time and give my young self an advice, it would be to not waste time with jazz. No, no, no, read further! It's not because of jazz itself. Jazz is great. It's because only a very few blessed ones are born to become masters. I was not. Not sure if other people have had similar experience but for me jazz was a rabbit hole. I always thought that I just needed one more scale to learn and practice, one more voicing to try, one more chord progression/reharmonization to apply, one more hour of mindless practicing of all that stuff, and it was gonna happen. But it didn't. Well, It wasn't a complete waste of time, I learned many things but ultimately it was a dead end for me. It's not my business to say to other people what to do but to be frank, I've seen many good (but not great) jazz musicians around me who seem unhappy. They would blame anything and anybody for why they have 10 people at their concerts, yet would somehow be oblivious to notice that they are just not top-notch, and unfortunately jazz (unlike other music) is 100% dependent on the skills of the musicians, there's world-class jazz and there's mediocre jazz, no middle ground.

“If you can play it slowly, you can play it quickly” 😀 As much as that’s been used for humorous purposes, there’s no better advice IMO.

Interesting, thanks. So, any chords that are made from this scale (I’d say made from thirds but they are apparently not thirds) are always C6 and Ddim. There’s some beauty in it although I’d say it’s more a synthetic way of approaching a targeted be-bop paradigm (similar to other be-bop scales where the idea is that you outline chord notes on down-beat when playing the scale sequentially). Once again, thanks. I thought it was all a joke but apparently it’s a legit scale and approach 👍🏻

I actually purchased a Take 5 and have been using it for a while and I can confirm what I had said before, apparently I had done a good research 😀 Fortunately mine has been faultless but I still read about occasional issues. And I’m really on the verge of selling it because of that silly inability to see what the stored value of a knob is. You have to turn it VERY SLOWLY in order to observe for a dot in the three-digit display to appear when you have matched the value. If you blink you’ll miss it. Why they don’t use the OLED display to show stored vs actual values (as on the Novation Peak/Summit) is beyond me. But the Take 5 sounds so nice!

Owning many plugins I find myself only using the U-He Diva and Re-Pro. I like the Arturia V-Collection and the Waldorf PPG 3.X but I can live without them. As a matter of fact I think I may live entirely with the Logic Pro plugins, especially Alchemy and the Retro synth (and other patches from various internal plugins). With that in mind I believe Logic Pro on the iPad will be a complete audio environment and DAW even in itself and even for pro users.

Yeah, I also thought that was not gonna work. BTW, I love my iPhone and one may think that the iPad, being a much larger iPhone, should be even better but no, doesn't work for me. I can't hold it with one hand and if I have to put it on a desk then the MacBook is much better. But yeah, we're getting old... 😕

I could never gel with my iPad Pro for years. Only used it as an expensive score reader on my piano. Gave it away to my daughter and she's so happy with it. We're old, they are young, get on with it and move on. We can keep using our wonderful Mac-s with Logic Pro and they can use iPad-s with Logic Pro, everyone is happy 😉

Very sexy and terrific features! But that price... 😕 I'm keeping my Hydrasynth.

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That’s a fair point. OTOH, the subscription is pretty cheap to start with, you can basically access the entire full app for €5 for an entire month. You can then cancel. And after a year you can pay another month and open/edit your project and use the newest version of the app. Paying only €10 in total up to that point. It’s not all black or white.

Nice! Not exactly my type of music but it’s very tight and well made 🙂

As a software engineer myself (but I’ve only worked for companies, never trying with my own business) I can’t imagine selling software to people and updating it for years with them paying only once. You either sell it for thousands, so that it’s profitable in the long run, or charge for updates. Or offer a subscription model. Apple sells you a lot of functionality for €200 (the sheer number of included instruments and effects is mind boggling) and updates it all the time and never charges you. Do you think that’s profitable for them on its own? 😉 One must be pretty naive to think so. They use it to “trap” you in their (wonderful and feature rich hardware, software, cloud, AppStore, iTunes, Music, TV, etc) ecosystem. But that’s not the norm and you shouldn’t expect for professional software to be sold for €200 and give you a lifetime ticket.

I’ve missed that somehow and just watched it. Wow! 😲 That’s mind blowing. Especially from the middle where he starts some syncopated 16ths along with polyrhythms and it gradually becomes thicker.

When I mentioned classical music and jazz versus the rest, I didn’t mean to imply only commercial pop s**t. I actually had in mind some very obscure genres, e.g. alternative metal. For instance, there’s a Bulgarian band Smallman that makes music similar to Tool. I’m saying this because I was not a fan of the genre and was not even aware of Smallman (or Tool) prior to participating on their concert where I was invited by chance and hesitated a lot since I’m not a metal head. But I was really impressed with everything: the music, the way they looked and behaved (or not behaved, see further), the lighting, images and videos that were projected. I became a huge fan and learned they were modeled after Tool and then researched Tool too. They both rely on imagery and specific atmosphere which doesn’t even require any dynamic activity on stage. Quite on the contrary, they often stay immobile and if you’ve seen Tool concerts they may not even interact or look at each other. It’s really surreal and amplifies the symbolism and message of the entire act enormously. It’s not like a regular band playing music. Instead, it’s a carefully crafted complete experience which I wouldn’t even call a show or entertainment. It’s an art in itself. So, it’s not all classical/jazz (where what matters is only how the guy used super or hyper locrian on top of this or that altered chord) versus J Lo 😀. There are many corners under the big “music” hat that will include additional senses beyond ears (and the math half of brain).

Re: subscription vs one-time purchase. Take in mind Logic Pro on the Mac is seen by Apple as something that attracts people to Macs. Macs are a small percentage of the entire computer market. They can afford selling Logic Pro for such a lucrative price because they make up with the hardware and the ecosystem. However the case with the iPad is not the same. There's no competition for the iPad and it's ubiquitous. People will buy it anyway. They won't "switch" to it because of Logic Pro for iPad since they already own an iPad. And I doubt Logic Pro on the iPad would be a full-blown DAW that can replace the desktop version.

Why is a subscription so unacceptable? At $50 a year it means 4 years to pay what the desktop version costs. 4 years is a lot of time and means continuous usage. If you will not be using it all the time you can pay on a monthly basis $5 a month. And not pay when not needed.

Re: Mainstage. I may be wrong but to me it seems like it's actually Logic Pro underneath only with a different frontend. You can (sloppily) recreate MainStage by adding enough tracks in a Logic Pro project and selectively solo/mute them to emulate switching between patches (where a patch can be multiple tracks for a layer/split). And of course there's the great mapping stuff between controls and anything. What I'm saying is, Mainstage looks deceptively simple compared to Logic Pro but to me it's exactly the same underneath, only tweaked with a different UI to turn a DAW into a tool for live playing. With that in mind, once you have the big machinery (Logic Pro) ported for iPad, you can then easily make MainStage for iPad. I'm pretty sure we'll see it soon.

I'm not gigging yet, we only practice and currently we compose new songs and prepare repertoire for an eventual gig some day (probably never) 🤣 So, with that in mind I'm not the one who you're asking... But I use MacBook with Logic Pro for these sessions. The reason is we don't have a drummer, so I use the Logic Pro Drummer on a track, a sequenced bass on another track and one (or more) MIDI tracks that I control with my Numa X Piano 73 which also plays a Rhodes piano from its onboard sounds. It's a pretty complicated setup, to be honest (but I'm a software engineer by trade, so no worries here), and I also own Mainstage and was wondering if it could eventually help me once we're settled on the final arrangement and I can then export the Drummer track and the sequenced bass to audio tracks that will be replayed in MainStage. However there's something I am not sure is possible on the MainStage. I often use the Live loop cells in Logic Pro. Not sure how many of you are familiar with that, they are more for modern type of music but I use them also in our creative process. Here's how: So, I lay down some linear regions for the Drummer track, for the bass, etc. But since it's still not a finalized arrangement, I switch to Live Loop mode and drag those regions from the tracks view to the live loop cells. This then allows me to dynamically switch between intro, chorus, verse, etc. (so to speak) and we can loop in any of these parts as long as we want, improvising and creating melodies/lyrics, etc. on the fly until we're happy and then we just move on to another part when we decide so, without having to stop, we just make signs (what was that, non-verbal communication? 😉)

Not necessarily. It's just a window that receives mouse and keyboard input. Apple can easily provide a bridge to that, so that the window recieves touch input and represents it as mouse and keyboard events. But yeah, it may not be optimal.

This is a speculation on my side but I believe AU plugins should work without problems on the M1-powered iPad-s if Apple decides to provide that functionality. Maybe it will be enabled in future. The more interesting questions would be regarding licensing and installation since most current plugins rely on software managers/installers/licensers. However I don't see any reason for plugins like the U-He ones to not work if you just copy the plugin file in a corresponding folder on the iPad. But that all depends on Apple.

I just gave away my iPad Pro 9.7 (incompatible with the Logic Pro for iPad) to my daughter. Wondering if a new iPad Mini 6th generation is any good for live playing, has anyone tested it? I prefer a smaller footprint so that it can stay on my Numa X Piano 73. I currently bring my MacBook Air with Logic Pro for gigging but I have to use a separate stand, so I would gladly switch to an iPad Mini if it runs Logic Pro and is OK as size.

The good news is it runs on A12 Bionic and later, so some old iPads are also covered. In that same announcement they also introduce Final Cut Pro for the iPad but it requires an M1 CPU.