KenElevenShadows Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I wanted to know if the RCA DCM 305 digital cable modem could output USB and ethernet simultaneously so that two PCs could access the internet at the same time (without an ethernet hub). There is one USB output and one ethernet output in the back of the modem. We were thinking of getting a cheap Dell laptop for email/internet purposes. I think the answer's yes but wanted to verify since RCA is draggin' their feet at responding and the owner's manual only discusses creating ethernet hubs. Thank you very much! (back of unit is virtually identical to this down below): http://www.neotechcc.org/modemscd/rca/rear-new.gif Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenElevenShadows Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 One more thing....would a USB connection be a little slower than ethernet, or does it matter? Thanks! Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Hi Ken! YES. It will connect a PC under USB AND ETHERNET at the same time, no sweat. I've been doing it for years now And... surprise... USB connection is FASTER than Ethernet. Why?, I dunno. Músico, Productor, Ingeniero, Tecnólogo Senior Product Manager, América Latina y Caribe - PreSonus at Fender Musical Instruments Company Instagram: guslozada Facebook: Lozada - Música y Tecnología www.guslozada.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenElevenShadows Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Ah, that's awesome, thanks Gus! And yeah, that is surprising - I would have thought that ethernet was faster, for some reason. So even better!!! ~~~~~~~ Right now I am using ethernet with the digital cable and it is blazing fast, so that's even better! I'm going to look into getting a cheap Dell laptop for the other computer so that my girlfriend can work on that and take it to class with her. Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Just make sure your ISP will allow you to use two machines with the same cable modem. I had to pay an extra fee for the service. The good news is that they only register the IP address of the machine connected via Ethernet and you can use any other machine in the USB port. I got several months ago a newer model with WiFi and have the two desktops, one USB, one Ethernet, and two laptops WiFi and my ISP decided NOT to charge for any extra machine. They just added $5 USD/month for the WiFi service. Heaven. Músico, Productor, Ingeniero, Tecnólogo Senior Product Manager, América Latina y Caribe - PreSonus at Fender Musical Instruments Company Instagram: guslozada Facebook: Lozada - Música y Tecnología www.guslozada.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenElevenShadows Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 We'd just be running one laptop (USB) and one desktop (ethernet), so hopefully we won't receive an extra fee since you can use any other machine in the USB port. Thanks again. Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Force Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Ken, you will need two Internet Protocol (IP) addresses for your proposed configuration--one per computer. This is what Gus is describing. Who is your Broadband provider? Comcast, for example, provides one IP address with their service and will provide, for additional charges, up to 4 additional IP addresses. Steve Force, Durham, North Carolina -------- My Professional Websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spokenward Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 And how many IP addresses would Ken need for 225 to 250 computers with an inexpensive router? (answer below) Routers can also provide a level of intrusion security. They really are cheap these days and available in either wifi or wired flavors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Force Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Spokenward--certainly you are correct but that wasn't his question.. Steve Force, Durham, North Carolina -------- My Professional Websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spokenward Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 yep, very true. If the provider charges for additional ip addresses it can be a pretty good alternative. It's worked for me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Heins Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 We use one of these here for our machines- http://www.netgear.com/products/details/FVS318.php Might be worth looking into for you. Darkon the Incandescent http://www.billheins.com/ Hail Vibrania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where02190 Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 USB is definitely NOT faster than ethernet. Using both connections on the calbe modem pulls 2 IP addresses, which you may get billed for. A router pulls 1 IP address no matter how many outputs it has or computers it has conected. I recently switched my GF's home setup from using both modem ports to a router because of the cost facter. The USB connected computer, while a faster machine than the one connected to ethernet, was much much slower. Hope this is helpful. NP Recording Studios Analog approach to digital recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenElevenShadows Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Okay, well, I think the answer's pretty clear if I have to pay for two IP addresses: time for a hub. They're cheap. And maybe I can get a physical firewall as well. The reason I asked is because I looked at the modem and saw two outputs. Not being really technically versed, my first reaction was, "Oh, wow, I wonder if I can use BOTH of them?" But I thought I'd ask first before just ASSuming, you know? I sure am learning a lot of important technical stuff from this board this weekend alone! Thanks! Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Force Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Save yourself some money--get a router and use only one IP address (as several people have mentioned.) Regards. Steve Force, Durham, North Carolina -------- My Professional Websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenElevenShadows Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Originally posted by forceman: Save yourself some money--get a router and use only one IP address (as several people have mentioned.) Regards. Thanks. Yeah, I think that's easiest and best. Just for clarification, a hub is a router, right? I know what I'm looking for conceptually, but I just want to make sure that I know the correct words. Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenElevenShadows Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Forceman, I should mention that I really like your sig file! Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dak Lander Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Ken, if you go the router route. Go with the wireless router and either get the laptop with wireless onboard, Centrino or Athlon XP-W will do. If the laptop doesn't have either of those the plugin card isn't all that expensive. Frys has the Airlink module available all the time for under thirty bucks and I've seen them down under twenty bucks. The wirless router will come with cable connectors so you don't have to do it all at once. You could and the wifi card later. Our Joint "When you come slam bang up against trouble, it never looks half as bad if you face up to it." The Duke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwestenberg Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Um, a hub is not a router. A hub only handles local network traffic between the computers in your house/business. Yep, another piece of gear. Lyrics. Wasted space between solos. I can't tell you, but I can play it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanmass Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 A hub is not a router, Ken. All a hub does is split the signal, and if you just drop a hub in, you will still need a 2nd IP address. Just buy a DSL/Cable modem router nearly anywhere. I bought a really nice Motorola 4 port router with built in Wireless G ( the faster wireless) for $50 at TARGET...Everyone is selling them. There is nearly NO price difference any more between a router and a cheap hub. The breakdown on network stuff is as follows; Hub = Splitter Switch = Splitter that is 'smart', similar to a router. It knows what traffic goe to which jack, where as a hub sends everything to every jack on it. Switches look just like hubs in most cases Router = Splitter AND a ton of features including DHCP ( which allows you to use one IP address) and hardware firewall protection (blocks certain channels of TCP/IP so bad people don't get in') * Yes, I realize that these are not FULL definitions, BUT they serve the purpose for explaining WHY Ken needs a ROUTER. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/justdeals/di624re.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOKUMDANO Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Head to any Best Buy and look at the Linksys routers..firewall is included on most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenElevenShadows Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 That's very helpful. Awesome! Thank you very much! Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblue1 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 I'm late coming to the game, but I vote for a Wi Fi router if you'll be using a laptop, as you suggest you might. It's great to be able to use your machine where you want, when you want. That said, when I'm home, my machine is usually 'docked' on the dining room table, where I have a MS Natural keyboard and mouse waiting for it (my laptop is pretty much my workplace, so to speak, so it goes with me to clients and to my favorite coffee shops -- both of which have free wireless. (Free 3mbps wireless, an onsite roasting oven, and a patio overlooking a popular promenade -- that's what it takes to compete when Starbucks puts a store a block away and then builds another one three blocks away, all on the same promenade.) bookmark these: news.google.com | m-w dictionary | wikipedia encyclopedia | Columbia Encyclopedia TK Major / one blue nine | myspace.com/onebluenine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Force Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Originally posted by Ken/Eleven Shadows: Forceman, I should mention that I really like your sig file! Thanks, Ken but Mr. Pablo Picasso should get the kudos.. IMO, I think it fits what many of us do here. Steve Force, Durham, North Carolina -------- My Professional Websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where02190 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 we've had a Linksys router for 5 years and it has given us absolutely no trouble. If you're concerned about security don't go wireless. Unless you need to be all over your house/studio with your laptop, plug it in and be done with it. Wireless offeres freedom of movement (at a bigger pricetage of course0 but also accessability of your network to anyone lclever enough to figure out you're on a wireless system (AKA any 14yr old.) Hope this is helpful. NP Recording Studios Analog approach to digital recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenElevenShadows Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Originally posted by forceman: Originally posted by Ken/Eleven Shadows: Forceman, I should mention that I really like your sig file! Thanks, Ken but Mr. Pablo Picasso should get the kudos.. IMO, I think it fits what many of us do here. That's for darn sure. Also, Picasso is actually a fairly quotable character! Ken Lee Photography - photos and books Eleven Shadows ambient music The Mercury Seven-cool spacey music Linktree to various sites Instagram Nightaxians Video Podcast Eleven Shadows website Ken Lee Photography Pinterest Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Fuzz Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 It's true that a wireless router can be less secure than a wired router. However - our Linksys wireless 'g' router is set up to only permit computers with certain 'mac' addresses to log in, so the only machines it will let on are the ones we tell it to. Seems pretty secure to me... and it sure is convenient not to have wires all over the place. "I'm just here to regulate the funkiness" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where02190 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Dr. Fuzz, if you think your system is hack proof, think again. Hope this is helpful. NP Recording Studios Analog approach to digital recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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