kitaristi0 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 What do you think? Any good? My singers dad bought one of 'em years a go and I think it played nice. I would love to own it but have exactly 3 euros in my bank account right now. A duck-pond, a museum, and a red hunting hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I love Les Pauls. What model? "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teahead Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Going on your Led Zep thread I would say you should go ahead and buy one! Get credit if you have to, I've never regretted paying bills for my guitar related debt like I do for all my other "boring" bills. A good Gibson Les Paul is a joy to behold, and once you've played one you realise just why. Mine plays better than any guitar I've tried, when I pick it up after my Tele it feels like the gauge 11 strings are actually old gauge 9s! If you want to create some of those huge Page riffs then this is the perfect place to start. A vast array of tones and that cool switch effect you get with one of the p'ups turned off. Perfect. Tea. Pedal Clips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitaristi0 Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 I think it's a standard Les Paul, not sure just played it for some 30 secs or so. Yeah, this would be the guitar for Zep riffs. I'm not even sure whether he's willing to sell it, maybe if the price is right. A duck-pond, a museum, and a red hunting hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gato Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Gibson Les Paul, if you find a good one from 70's, take it ¡¡¡ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Guitar Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by kitaristi0: What do you think? Any good? My singers dad bought one of 'em years a go and I think it played nice. I would love to own it but have exactly 3 euros in my bank account right now.1970s Gibsons are not very collectable. 1972 might have been right before the Norlin takeover of Gibson. Norlin era guitars are kind of hit and miss. Some are good. I had a 1974 Les Paul Standard that stunk, quite frankly. Gibson recovered quite nicely after the move to Nashville around 1980 or so. I'm not quite sure when Norlin was out of the picture, right around that same time. Have you recorded an MP3 today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar Geezer Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I sorely miss mine, i always thaought they were like baseball bats till I was given this one http://www.teamtatham.com/lynntest/LesPaul74.JPG I hope there is a special place in Hell for Guitar Thieves LynnG Lynn G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by Mr Nice Jazz Guitar Guy: Originally posted by kitaristi0: What do you think? Any good? My singers dad bought one of 'em years a go and I think it played nice. I would love to own it but have exactly 3 euros in my bank account right now.1970s Gibsons are not very collectable. 1972 might have been right before the Norlin takeover of Gibson. Norlin era guitars are kind of hit and miss. Some are good. I had a 1974 Les Paul Standard that stunk, quite frankly. Gibson recovered quite nicely after the move to Nashville around 1980 or so. I'm not quite sure when Norlin was out of the picture, right around that same time.No sir they where made better in MI sorry. The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Guitar Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Originally posted by DARKLAVA: Originally posted by Mr Nice Jazz Guitar Guy: Originally posted by kitaristi0: What do you think? Any good? My singers dad bought one of 'em years a go and I think it played nice. I would love to own it but have exactly 3 euros in my bank account right now.1970s Gibsons are not very collectable. 1972 might have been right before the Norlin takeover of Gibson. Norlin era guitars are kind of hit and miss. Some are good. I had a 1974 Les Paul Standard that stunk, quite frankly. Gibson recovered quite nicely after the move to Nashville around 1980 or so. I'm not quite sure when Norlin was out of the picture, right around that same time.No sir they where made better in MI sorry. You'd like to think that. Truth be told, Norlin era guitars made in Kalamazoo were pretty stinky for the most part. They tinkered with the old family recipe. Case in point, the infamous "volute". My present SG and DC LP+ are vastly superior guitars than my erstwhile '74 LP Standard. Have you recorded an MP3 today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsthang Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 That wasn't until the mid-seventies when the Les Paul's started to go down hill a bit. The early seventies models were great. I still have my first guitar..a 1971 Les paul Deluxe. Unfortunatly I was into Rush and took out the mini humbuckers and put in Dimarzio Super Distortion's around 1977. From the mid seventies on I don't think the quality was as good. Even today the guitars just seem over laquered to me, kind sticky to play. overheard street personality on Venice Beach "Man, that Bullshit is Bulllshhittt...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMcGuitar Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I've got a '72 LP Custom (that I don't play nearly as much as I should), and I can say that it is certainly worth it. If my house ever burns down (god forbid!) that's one of the first things I'm gonna drag out (after the wife & the cats)! May all your thoughts be random! - Neil www.McFaddenArts.com www.MikesGarageRocks.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitaristi0 Posted February 5, 2004 Author Share Posted February 5, 2004 Hmm.. I guess I'll have to keep dreaming. Just talked to the guy and he said it's not up for sale. Gosh darnit. A duck-pond, a museum, and a red hunting hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Guitar Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by kitaristi0: Hmm.. I guess I'll have to keep dreaming. Just talked to the guy and he said it's not up for sale. Gosh darnit.Get a new one. They're made better now than they were 32 years ago. "Norlin" is but a distant memory now. Gibson has recovered, just not in Kalamazoo. Have you recorded an MP3 today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tld Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 I had a 74 tobaco sunburst Les Paul standard, which I bought when it was new. It was a nice guitar, but oddly, a close friend had the exact same guitar purchased around the same time and his sounded way better than mine. That one was a real gem. Mine got stolen along with my 64 Tele and 67 ES225TD...special place in hell indeed... Tom http://www.digitalaudiorock.com The Protools Plugin Preset Co-op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Guitar Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by tld: I had a 74 tobaco sunburst Les Paul standard, That's exactly what I had. Worst POS Gibson I've ever owned. I swear the neck must have been the greenist wood Gibson ever used. Probably saved money on natural gas in the kiln that day. That neck was never good. Newer Gibsons are vastly superior to those made back then, trust me. Norlin was very bad for Gibson. Have you recorded an MP3 today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklava Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by Mr Nice Jazz Guitar Guy: Originally posted by tld: I had a 74 tobaco sunburst Les Paul standard, That's exactly what I had. Worst POS Gibson I've ever owned. I swear the neck must have been the greenist wood Gibson ever used. Probably saved money on natural gas in the kiln that day. That neck was never good. Newer Gibsons are vastly superior to those made back then, trust me. Norlin was very bad for Gibson.Thats funny last year I bought a classic that had the worst neck ever,took it back to GC,nice gold top marked down.Now I know why. No joke they could not set it up right. Then I went on harmonycentral there were a lot of bad reviews about the same problem. The story of life is quicker then the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello, goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Guitar Posted February 5, 2004 Share Posted February 5, 2004 Originally posted by DARKLAVA: Originally posted by Mr Nice Jazz Guitar Guy: Originally posted by tld: I had a 74 tobaco sunburst Les Paul standard, That's exactly what I had. Worst POS Gibson I've ever owned. I swear the neck must have been the greenist wood Gibson ever used. Probably saved money on natural gas in the kiln that day. That neck was never good. Newer Gibsons are vastly superior to those made back then, trust me. Norlin was very bad for Gibson.Thats funny last year I bought a classic that had the worst neck ever,took it back to GC,nice gold top marked down.Now I know why. No joke they could not set it up right. Then I went on harmonycentral there were a lot of bad reviews about the same problem.Now and then they put out a few bummers. Always take those WhoreMoney Central "reviews" with a grain of salt, just like you would Ed Roman. My '93 SG and '98 DC LP+ are both excellent. Of course the '92 Super 5 Custom Shop is out of this world in terms of quality. It was made by Jimmy Triggs though. My '97 ES175 is also most excellent in build quality. Have you recorded an MP3 today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitaristi0 Posted February 6, 2004 Author Share Posted February 6, 2004 Originally posted by Mr Nice Jazz Guitar Guy: Originally posted by kitaristi0: Hmm.. I guess I'll have to keep dreaming. Just talked to the guy and he said it's not up for sale. Gosh darnit.Get a new one. They're made better now than they were 32 years ago. "Norlin" is but a distant memory now. Gibson has recovered, just not in Kalamazoo.I have to disagree. There's just something special about vintage guitars. A duck-pond, a museum, and a red hunting hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Guitar Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Originally posted by kitaristi0: Originally posted by Mr Nice Jazz Guitar Guy: Originally posted by kitaristi0: Hmm.. I guess I'll have to keep dreaming. Just talked to the guy and he said it's not up for sale. Gosh darnit.Get a new one. They're made better now than they were 32 years ago. "Norlin" is but a distant memory now. Gibson has recovered, just not in Kalamazoo.I have to disagree. There's just something special about vintage guitars.Older is not always better. Gibson neck designs today are far strong than they were with the single piece necks of yore, for instance. They got rid of the dreaded "volute" too. Of course you could buy one of those Custom Shop "aged" guitars for $4500 Best vintage guitars you can get! Have you recorded an MP3 today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsthang Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 I too have to disagree. True, that Volute era wasn't the best. I think from that point on they still never got it back to where it was. I've yet to see any Les Paul that's better than my 1971. Trust me, I see a ton of them. They have come back a bit as of late but still aren't as good as before. They're over-laquered and over-priced. overheard street personality on Venice Beach "Man, that Bullshit is Bulllshhittt...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Guitar Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Originally posted by dougsthang': I too have to disagree. True, that Volute era wasn't the best. I think from that point on they still never got it back to where it was. I've yet to see any Les Paul that's better than my 1971. Trust me, I see a ton of them. They have come back a bit as of late but still aren't as good as before. They're over-laquered and over-priced.You aint played one a dez den. Fine little Les Paul, and not overpriced. BTW, the new LP Standards have some nice tops, seem to play well and go for about 2 grand. Not a bad deal. Have you recorded an MP3 today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsthang Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 True, I haven't played your guitars but... I've played a ton of the newer ones and I attend all the vintage shows. Until you've played a '59 or mid 60's, even right up to early seventies models, they're just different beast's. I think the thing that bugs me the most about the newer models is the finish. You look at the older models and the finish is more refined, today it's all over spray. I have seen a few custom shop models that look nice, but the production stuff is nowhere near the over all quality of the older production models. I'm sure your guitars are very nice. I just prefer the older Gibson's. At least I see a level of consistent quality in the newer Fender's. They do have too many models but the American Made guitars are very nice if not better than some of the older guitars. overheard street personality on Venice Beach "Man, that Bullshit is Bulllshhittt...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryrobinett Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 I have a '75 Paul that's the best instrument I have. It's an Anniversary 50/25. Great guitar. All the best, Henry Robinett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Guitar Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Originally posted by henryrobinett: I have a '75 Paul that's the best instrument I have. It's an Anniversary 50/25. Great guitar.Interesting, and my '74 LP was the worst Gibson I ever owned. Have you recorded an MP3 today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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