TelebenderX Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 who do you think is the most skilled in their chops: Carlos Santana, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, Kirk Hammet,(Fill in your nominee's here)... im not sure. as far as raw chops, probably kirk... I will feed your children to the donkeys living in my block of pepper jack cheese!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsa2000 Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Not sure about those other guys but I think Carlos is vegetarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rog951 Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Of the four you mention, I'd pick JB as having the best chops. I'm sure the player that currently has the best technique is someone I've never heard of because I'm too old! I'll cast my vote for Eric Johnson though; he maybe doesn't have the absolute best lead chops out there but his rhythm/chording chops blow me away. Plus, he has TONE chops. So, if you take those three "categories" and average them, I think EJ eeks out most of the shredders in an overall chops competition. JMHO. None more black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abnorm Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 I'll go with Christopher Parkening on classical guitar, Al Di Meola on the various genres he plays, and I like the touch of a jazz guitarist named Pete McCann. But if I have to name one, I ... can't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbrock1san.rr.com Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Originally posted by rog951: I think EJ eeks out most of the shredders in an overall chops competition. JMHO."Overall Chops Competition", was that on ESPN or ESPN 2 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave da Dude Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Eric who? Whoa! Be Just kiddn'. But actually, in my ignorance , I really don't know who Eric Johnson is Can I have some help here? Dave Gotta' geetar... got the amp. There must be SOMEthing else I... "need". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Soloway Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 For pure technical ability, my vote goes to Paul Galbraith. While I may love their music, I seriously doubt that any rock, blues or jazz player is even in the same universe. http://www.artsandlectures.ucsb.edu/archive/1999-2000/perform/images/galbraith.jpg www.solowayguitars.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 I think no one can touch Clapton for tone, style and feeling . Thrasher he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyBlues Posted August 15, 2003 Share Posted August 15, 2003 Dave the Dude: Eric Johnson is a young guy who is an excellent musician and darned nice guy too...I met him in person recently and he was very gracious. I just found out about him a few months ago and saw him on Austin City Limits. He's definitely worth a listen. I have one of his CD's but my old age prohibits me from remembering the title right now ...has a song called Cliffs of Dover (I think) that is referred to in this forum from time to time. Check him out sometime. Bruce I was born at night but I wasn't born last night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgstrat Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Most skilled (and most varied and least cliched): Richard Thompson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpel Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Not inclouding jazz or classical players, the guy whose chops are guaranteed to drop my jaw is Holdsworth. Which is not to say he's my favorite guitarist. That would be John Scofield. Check out the Sweet Clementines CD at bandcamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prague Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 STEVE HOWE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsa2000 Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 There's a guy here in Australia who is gonna blow 'em all away one day.......Slava Grigoryan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Strat Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 "Better" is kind of subjective. I'd say that Eric Johnson is a great player. I'd also say that Steve Vai and Joe Satriani are equally as good, but in different ways. For chops and a great sense of when and where to use those chops, Marty Friedman when he was with Megadeth ("Rust in Peace" and "Countdown to Extinction" to be exact) would be my pick. The solos in "Hanger 18" blow me away everytime I hear them. BlueStrat a.k.a. "El Guapo" ...Better fuzz through science... http://geocities.com/teleman28056/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsa2000 Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Originally posted by Jim Soloway: For pure technical ability, my vote goes to Paul Galbraith. While I may love their music, I seriously doubt that any rock, blues or jazz player is even in the same universe. http://www.artsandlectures.ucsb.edu/archive/1999-2000/perform/images/galbraith.jpgI'll take your word for it about Paul Galbraith - but should'nt he be wearing a helmet if he's going to ride one of those things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squ Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Did Van Halen die or something? Red Red Rockit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James-Italy Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 Originally posted by Squ: Did Van Halen die or something?Yeah, Eddie gets my vote too. I was 13 when VHI came out and was really blown away. Listened to it again the other day and I think it impresses me even more now. Since EVH and Jimmy Page were the two guys that "rocked my world" as a kid, they're kind of set in my mind- probably conditioning of those formative years. But what the hell do I know? I only know a few of the other guys mentioned. My Gear My Attempts at Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TelebenderX Posted August 16, 2003 Author Share Posted August 16, 2003 Jimmy page does kick ass. i love led zeplin. As far as creativity i think credit has to go to Dave Navarro, Daron Malkaian( Don't know if spelled corectly, but he's from System of a down), and although many people hate this, Korn... As far as tone chops, i think George Benson is king. His tone sounds almost exactly like water drops played at different pitches. Also Django Reinhart ( still don't know if spelled right.) I will feed your children to the donkeys living in my block of pepper jack cheese!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted August 16, 2003 Share Posted August 16, 2003 LOL - what a pointless question!!! The most skilled player I ever knew about was someone you've never heard of. He could do classical, jazz, rock.... he was just awesome in every respect. And of course there probably were/are more skilled players than him. The guy died in a motorcycle accident many years ago. Clapton? I have immense respect for what he's done, but at best he's a VERY GOOD blues guitarist. (Especially nowadays, when his fire has essentially died out.) He was 'God' at a time when teenage English boys didn't know the blues. Santana's a great player, but not a technical wizard like McLaughlin or DiMeola. Though when he's on, his playing just grabs you and doesn't let go. Kirk Hammett? Good player; not awesome. There are better players in his genre, both from a tech and an artistic point of view. Beck is great. The best? I dunno - like I said before, that's really a pointless question. I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werewolf by Night Posted August 17, 2003 Share Posted August 17, 2003 Django trumps all for all around coolness! Ooops! Failed to register that bit about "alive"... Alan Holdsworth, Tuck Andress, and Jeff Beck all come to mind. Ask yourself- What Would Ren and Stimpy Do? ~ Caevan James-Michael Miller-O'Shite ~ _ ___ _ Leprechaun, Esquire _ ___ _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Crockett Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 I will say Eric Johnson, HANDS DOWN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 Eric Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael saulnier Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 For what it's worth, Guitar Player mag does annual "best of" awards... Although I can't remember the last one they did. Kirk often wins for "best Metal" or whatever. It's clear these are somewhat of a "popularity" contest... and reputation! Anyway, if you've seen these you probably know that when you win 5 times in a row, you're in the "Hall of Fame" and you're not eligible to win again... I assume this is to give "room" for new artists to make a mark. So... you would assume a 5-time Hall of Fame member for the category of "best overall" guitarist would be "pretty good"... One of those with that claim is Steve Morse. guitplayer I'm still "guitplayer"! Check out my music if you like... http://www.michaelsaulnier.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtrmac Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 Lenny Breau Danny Gatton Alan Holdsworth Just a few guys that have blown my mind. Mac Bowne G-Clef Acoustics Ltd. Osaka, Japan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Soloway Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 Originally posted by gtrmac: Lenny Breau Danny Gatton Alan Holdsworth Just a few guys that have blown my mind.It think you missed the "alive" part of the question. www.solowayguitars.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-berger Posted August 19, 2003 Share Posted August 19, 2003 It's hard to say how any one particular guy can be the best, but I totally agree with the Allan Holdsworth and Al DiMeola mentions, they're both amazing. Eric Johnson is crazy good too, you should check out the G3 Live in Concert CD, it's got Satch and Vai on it too (!!), also worthy mentions. What about J Frusciante? I think rhythmically he's just incredible. Another dude no one's mentioned is John McLaughlin, you should really check him out and see why. Mad electric stuff with the Mahavishnu orchestra (early 70s) and alot of ridiculous acoustic guitar in the later 70s and onwards. Also Paco de Lucia? Has no one heard of him?? Honestly, he blows everyone that everyone's mentioned out of the water. I've got one album for everybody...Friday Night in San Francisco...get it and you'll see why!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fendercaster Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 Gary Moore My gear: http://fendercaster.freeservers.com/guit3.html If you own two Lexus cars, do you have Lexi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarWolf Posted August 20, 2003 Share Posted August 20, 2003 For me great chops means Zakk Wylde, Kirk Hammet aint got nothin on him YtseJam your Majesty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balli Posted August 23, 2003 Share Posted August 23, 2003 I also think a real 'best guitar player alive' doesn't excist, just like many of you, but I think I haven't seen two guitarists yet, who should be mentioned here: Paul Gilbert, former-guitarist of Racer X and Mr. Big, is a player with great skills. Noone mentioned him, so I'll do it for him... And for his original playing: Tom Morello of Rage Against The Machine and nowadays Audioslave. He created more original sounds out of his electric guitar than any other guitarist, since Jimmy Page (which is my personal favourite...). Of the four mentioned in the first post, I don't think any of them qualifies for the 'best'-title. Not because they're not good, but their just not the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gug Posted August 24, 2003 Share Posted August 24, 2003 It's a BIG universe out there! For soloing ability, I can really appreciate Slash. The dude can noodle and he knows where he's going in a solo. You know he'll land where he's supposed to. I watched the Led Zep DVD and was somewhat disappointed at Page's performances. I think he's extremely important to Rock-n-Roll (can't doubt that), but I think his name is bigger than his ability. Mikegug www.facebook.com/theresistancemusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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