Tim Mayock Posted February 25, 2003 Share Posted February 25, 2003 I just read that Howie Epstein has died. Quite a bummer http://www.themayocks.com Hear The Mayocks on Rhapsody and Itunes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Keelan Posted February 25, 2003 Share Posted February 25, 2003 I'm looking for the story. Where did you see this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Mayock Posted February 25, 2003 Author Share Posted February 25, 2003 I saw it on NRBQ's list http://www.themayocks.com Hear The Mayocks on Rhapsody and Itunes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Keelan Posted February 25, 2003 Share Posted February 25, 2003 Yeah, it's on the Tom Petty site too. No details though. Too bad. I guess it's not a shock though. Prayers for his loved ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanmass Posted February 25, 2003 Share Posted February 25, 2003 Brief from Petty's site http://www.tompetty.com/lastdj_newsdetail.php?section=headlines&id=864 From billboard.com, full article... http://www.billboard.com/billboard/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1824016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotown Posted February 25, 2003 Share Posted February 25, 2003 Another one goes down. This is one of the reasons why I hate drugs. Jotown:) "It's all good: Except when it's Great" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted February 25, 2003 Share Posted February 25, 2003 Damn shame. "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george costanza Posted February 25, 2003 Share Posted February 25, 2003 I was told he did get axed from Petty's band for indiscrete behavior...but I always thought he was their best secret weapon (because of his vocal backups). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted February 25, 2003 Share Posted February 25, 2003 Some of you might not be aware of the significance of this. Howie, in my humble opinion, was INTEGRAL to the development of the "Tom Petty sound", whatever that means. Even if you don't recognize his solid, laid-back bass playing which was always great for the music, you'd certainly know his voice, since he was the key harmonizing singer in the band. Heroin...sheesh. How is it possible that otherwise smart people are still using (and being killed by) drugs like smack? Sad day. :( - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymbals Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 His talent with that band was solid, no doubt about it. You read about these stories (like him being replaced in the band), and wonder if they are probably heading down a slippery slope...and then you see a forum posting announcing the death. It's sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparksongs Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 From billboard.com, full article... http://www.billboard.com/billboard/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1824016 Up until the Billboard story, I always wondered what happened to Carlene Carter..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Keelan Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 Here's a little more detail involving some of his production work: http://rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=17632 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Keelan Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 and here's an ironic look back at a thread in this very forum not too long ago: http://www.musicgearnetwork.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=008291#000000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 [quote]Originally posted by Jeff, TASCAM Guy: [b]Some of you might not be aware of the significance of this. Howie, in my humble opinion, was INTEGRAL to the development of the "Tom Petty sound", whatever that means.[/b][/quote]Well, I think Howie was talented, but I wouldn't go that far. He wasn't the original bass player. Most of the early stuff that really best defined the band's sound - "Refugeee," "Breakdown," "Here Comes My Girl," "The Waiting" et al - he wasn't on. [quote][b] Even if you don't recognize his solid, laid-back bass playing which was always great for the music, you'd certainly know his voice, since he was the key harmonizing singer in the band. [/b][/quote]Well... in the early days it was original drummer Stan Lynch doing all the key harmonies. When Howie joined the band he began to take over a lot of the singing from Stan when they played live. Just for the record. :D Howie's real strength I think was that he was a multi-instrumentalist and would add a lot of subtleties to the band... he would sometimes play mandolin or harmonica or acoustic guitar if the song called for it. And for whatever it's worth to anybody, he won a Grammy before Petty did - for his production work. [quote][b] Heroin...sheesh. How is it possible that otherwise smart people are still using (and being killed by) drugs like smack? [/b][/quote]I know... but I think it has little to do with logic. I actually wonder sometimes if intelligent people might be MORE susceptible to smack addiction because the more perceptive you are, the more you realize how fucked up things are. :D Which would make you likelier to seek solace in something like heroin. Lots of highly intelligent alcoholics out there too. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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