mound Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Alright, somebody slap me if I'm just being dumb here, but isn't there such a thing as a stereo volume pedal? something that takes two 1/4" mono inputs routed to two 1/4" mono outputs? I swear, I walked into Guitar Center not too long ago and asked one of the little punks for one. He looks around a bit, then pulls out this used morley wah and hands me that plus a guitar chord and says "here ya go, it's used, but you can go plug any guitar you want into it and make sure it works." I look at him a bit dumbfounded, and say "umm, I need a stereo volume pedal, not a used wah" and he's like "oh, isn't that what this is?" then somebody else tells me to go to Pro Audio.. So I go over to Pro Audio and ask the same thing.. At first they are confused, they're like "stereo? what for?" and I said "for my keyboard".. "what kind of keybaord".. "a roland rd-700".. so he gives me this pedal that has a a single 1/4" plug on it. I say "how am I going to plug two inputs into this?" he says it goes in the FC1 plug and will control the piano's volume slider. Ok, so that worked, but in practice, it actually sucks, becuase it only works as a volume pedal if I've programmed my current patch to "see it" as a volume pedal. Otherwise it has some very unexpected effects, either sustain, or modulation, which are cool, but not what I want. I want a "physical" stereo volume pedal that will go after my mixer and before my amp to control volume on absolutely anything that's before it, with no MIDI involved. Is that so much to ask? -Paul "You look hopefully for an idea and then you're humble when you find it and you wish your skills were better. To have even a half-baked touch of creativity is an honor." -- Ernie Stires, composer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mound Posted August 9, 2004 Author Share Posted August 9, 2004 ok, replying to myself here, a quick search on musiciansfriend.com is all I really needed I guess, I'll leave my post just for the story of the kids at GC. Anyway -so I'm seeing a few options for stereo volume pedals, an Ernie Ball that costs $150 (why?? it's just a couple pots and input plugs??) but I also see a Boss FV-50L.. It's $80, but it states "a low-impedance stereo pedal for keyboards." - is that something I should be looking for, low-impedance? I will likely be plugging outputs of a mixer into this, not directly from the keyboard. -Paul "You look hopefully for an idea and then you're humble when you find it and you wish your skills were better. To have even a half-baked touch of creativity is an honor." -- Ernie Stires, composer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Years ago I had a Morley pedal that was really nice. I don't know if they still make it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcS Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Look into this (RFX412): http://www.rolls.com/new/frame3.html It works well, and has additional features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarkus Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Originally posted by Linwood: Years ago I had a Morley pedal that was really nice. I don't know if they still make it or not.Loved the Morley black-gold and slim line pedals. one problem was the pots would get cruddy and it was not easy to clean. Still looking for the Morley Volume/Bass Booster pedal. Check out the Morley stereo panner pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I got a Bespeco stereo volume pedal for $25.00, brand-new. Looks just like the Roland pedal.... when you think about it, it's nothing more than a pair of resistors attached to a pedal base. Why the heck should it cost 80 bucks, or $150 or beyond?? I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mound Posted August 9, 2004 Author Share Posted August 9, 2004 it shouldn't! in fact.. I wonder.. I do have an Ernie Ball mono volume pedal, which has been collecting dust in a closet for a few years.. I wonder what would be involved in converting it to stereo. "You look hopefully for an idea and then you're humble when you find it and you wish your skills were better. To have even a half-baked touch of creativity is an honor." -- Ernie Stires, composer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Funny story about Guitar Center. I guess we shouldn't expect guitar players to get what KB players want anymore than the other way around. The first time I played a string part on my old Oberheim OBX and the first note come out of one side, and the second note from out of the other side, I was hooked on stereo forever. I have a collection of Morley volume pedals that are really OLD. Still work fine. The drawbacks are that they are BIG (WIDE) and the ones I use have a small pilot light bulb that never fails to burn out in the middle of a song, and of course the pedal doesn't work without the bulb. I always carried spare bulbs and a spare pedal. They are expensive too. About 10 years ago, a local music dealer recommended a DeArmond stereo pedal, no pilot light, didn't need AC power. Narrow foot print, and relatively inexpensive. Worked great. Fender bought them out, so they're gone. I'll keep checking this thread to see what everyone comes up with. Mike T. Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT156 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Funny story about Guitar Center. I guess we shouldn't expect guitar players to get what KB players want anymore than the other way around. The first time I played a string part on my old Oberheim OBX and the first note come out of one side, and the second note from out of the other side, I was hooked on stereo forever. I have a collection of Morley volume pedals that are really OLD. Still work fine. The drawbacks are that they are BIG (WIDE) and the ones I use have a small pilot light bulb that never fails to burn out in the middle of a song, and of course the pedal doesn't work without the bulb. I always carried spare bulbs and a spare pedal. They are expensive too. About 10 years ago, a local music dealer recommended a DeArmond stereo pedal, no pilot light, didn't need AC power. Narrow foot print, and relatively inexpensive. Worked great. Fender bought them out, so they're gone. I'll keep checking this thread to see what everyone comes up with. Mike T. Yamaha Motif ES8, Alesis Ion, Prophet 5 Rev 3.2, 1979 Rhodes Mark 1 Suitcase 73 Piano, Arp Odyssey Md III, Roland R-70 Drum Machine, Digitech Vocalist Live Pro. Roland Boss Chorus Ensemble CE-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 Originally posted by coyote: I got a Bespeco stereo volume pedal for $25.00, brand-new. Looks just like the Roland pedal.... when you think about it, it's nothing more than a pair of resistors attached to a pedal base. Why the heck should it cost 80 bucks, or $150 or beyond??I used a Bespeco stereo pedal as well for a while, but I found that the throw was really limited and not very controllable; in addition, it was rather hissy. I have also used a Morley, and it's like night and day. *Very* responsive! Today I'm not using volume pedals; I just keep my submixer at arm distance if I need to make small adjustements; the overall balance of sounds is pre-programmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Doe Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I gots this here bad boy for my V-Combo: http://www.onlinerock.com/mf_store/guitar/p/Volume_Pedals/Boss_FV-300-L_Heavy_Duty_Stereo_Vol_151367.htm No signature required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 I find the Bespeco very controllable and completely transparent. A longer throw might be nice, but I don't need it that badly. Originally posted by marino: I used a Bespeco stereo pedal as well for a while, but I found that the throw was really limited and not very controllable; in addition, it was rather hissy. I have also used a Morley, and it's like night and day. *Very* responsive! Today I'm not using volume pedals; I just keep my submixer at arm distance if I need to make small adjustements; the overall balance of sounds is pre-programmed. I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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