coyote Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 LOL! Actually I wish I could write something like that. Simple as it is, "Set on You" is loaded with hooks. And repetition is a great tool for pop songwriting - one that I constantly have to remind myself is available. Originally posted by Griffinator: This song's just six words long This song's just six words long This song's just six words long This song's just six words long You know they're paying me money Whole lotta spending money They're paying me plenty of money To write this song, child I gotta fill time 3 minutes worth of time Oh how will I fill so much time? Mmmm - I'll throw in A solo A solo A solo A solo A solo here! (Sax solo) I know that you're probably sore 'cause I didn't write any more I know if I put my mind to it I know I can find a good rhyme here! This song's just six words long... I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 I just quoted Weird Al Yankovic's version A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Frederick Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 It is fun to use The Strokes as a point of reference for judging someone's attractiveness, e.g. "Justine Bateman is really cute, but, not as cute as The Strokes". If wishes were omelettes we would all be filled with cheese, AND HAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 Originally posted by Roto: Sorry, but Sir George takes the cake on the repeating lyric with Do you mean George Harrison? He didn't write this piece of crap. It was a cover. The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upright_kangaroo Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 first off. i gave radiohead a chance last year. i usually like atmospheric rock/ambient pop what-have-you. then i realized they are a crackpot band making music thats just as pretentious as a dawsons creek episode. Radioheads musical worth OBVIOUSLY has nothing to do with harmonization, carrying a tune, or even having a listenable melody. there are countless songs where i can only hear one droned out note the whole song. but add in an autechre rip off beat with some aphex twin rip off vocals and its the BEST thing thats ever happened to rock! i listen to music where expirimentation is a starting point not the staple of the musical value. Radioheads music sounds like something i have heard before simply because its so blasé. so my closing statement about radiohead is, strip away the gimmicks and you have VERY mediocre music some vomit inducing music total eclipse of the heart-bonnie tyler(or something like that) that new song with the girl singing"oh my god! i woke up with a snake tattoo!" any adult alternative i.e. train, matchbox twenty, vertical horizon 70s storybook music raunchy late 70s early 80s prog rock cher...and shes ugly to!!! and heres a DOOSY! they have been playing a country radiostation at work recently and they have this 9/11 song in heavy rotation(go figure). heres a sample of the lyrics"now i watch CNN but i honestly cant tell the differenec between Iraq and Iran" and yes it wasnt intended to be funny! my fingers hurt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Frederick Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 I guess at least one good thing about Radiohead is that maybe a kid who once cared only for power chords might now have been introduced to the Ondes Martenot? I think the've used their power for good, not evil. It's more intriguing than most stuff on the radio for sure. Colin Greenwood, the bass player, is married to my high school friend Molly. My friends from HS all still get together at holiday times, and well, there's Colin Greenwood now, too! Definitely creates a new dynamic in my boring hometown! If wishes were omelettes we would all be filled with cheese, AND HAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted April 4, 2002 Share Posted April 4, 2002 strip away the gimmicks and you have very mediocre musicI take it, then, that you have not listened to Pablo Honey or The Bends - no gimmicks there, man. Just great songs. If you're defining Radiohead as an Autechre ripoff, you haven't listened to early Radiohead. And you need to, because you're missing out on some really stellar stuff. A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roto Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 Originally posted by Dan South: Originally posted by Roto: Sorry, but Sir George takes the cake on the repeating lyric with Do you mean George Harrison? He didn't write this piece of crap. It was a cover.The credit says Clarke/Harrison, and nobody else recorded the song, at least not under a major label. Actually I don't hate that song, it is catchy. One that's just as repetetive and just a terribly dissapointing song is McCartney's 9/11 tribute. It has one verse and repeats this chorus 6 times! Talkin' about freedom I'm talkin' 'bout freedom I will fight For the right To live in freedom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Klopmeyer Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 Originally posted by Roto: Sorry, but Sir George takes the cake on the repeating lyricOh yeah? I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know... Sound familiar? - Jeff Marketing Communications for MI/Pro Audio My solo music and stuff They Stole My Crayon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 Originally posted by Griffinator: ...you haven't listened to early Radiohead. And you need to...No, I don't. The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydubz Posted April 5, 2002 Share Posted April 5, 2002 "Lady in Red" ~ Chris DeBurgh....please MAKE IT STOP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upright_kangaroo Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Originally posted by Griffinator: strip away the gimmicks and you have very mediocre musicI take it, then, that you have not listened to Pablo Honey or The Bends - no gimmicks there, man. Just great songs. If you're defining Radiohead as an Autechre ripoff, you haven't listened to early Radiohead. And you need to, because you're missing out on some really stellar stuff.i forgot to mention most of the stuff i was saying refers to their newer music. i understand pablo honey and the bends are good albums. those simply werent my taste though. I realized a long time ago that i like atmospheric music. atmospheric pertaining to the fundamentals of the notes and their harmonization blah blah blah. i dont care how ambient it is, but the easiest way to find atmospheric music is to go through ambient music. i tried out newer radiohead from all the buzz and/or hype and was dissapointed in the fundamental aspect. that is how i judge good music for myself. i dont mean to be preachy, i was simply offering my point of view, but i still think they are pretentious no matter what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 By all means, your viewpoint is just as valid as anyone else's - I just wanted to point out that their earlier stuff was far more organic and really, IMO, their best work. A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not coaster MODERATOR Posted April 6, 2002 Share Posted April 6, 2002 Originally posted by Dave Bryce: Originally posted by Dan South: I also hate every song ever released by Journey without exception.I'm with Dan big-time here - I also am a Journey foe. It's mainly Steve Perry's voice - it just bugs the daylights out of me... The lead singer for Supertramp...what is it - Roger Hodgson? His voice bugs me too. dBGreat minds think alike. Can we throw Foreigner in the mix too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted April 7, 2002 Author Share Posted April 7, 2002 Originally posted by Cereal: Great minds think alike. Can we throw Foreigner in the mix too?I'm comfortable with that... dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 Originally posted by Dan South: Another band that universally sucks is Styx, but "Come Sail Away" is the most hideous of their entire bucket of turkeys.No, I have to disagree. I think it's only the second most hideous, "Mr. Roboto" grabbing the top spot in my book. I also hate every song ever released by Journey without exception.AMEN!!! Amen to most of the other choices here too - Yanni, Tesh, Britney/boy bands, Madonna - gag me! I have to agree with what others have said about Radiohead though: Pablo Honey, The Bends and OK Computer are friggin' brilliant (and have EXCELLENT, MELODIC songwriting, anyone who thinks they don't write REAL songs should give some of this a listen, and most of you KNOW how old-school I am about song craftsmanship). I also think The Bends and OK Computer were brilliantly produced and performed. Kid A and Amnesiac suck, and indeed are a bunch of boring pretentious bullshit. I don't know what they were thinking. I just wish people who'd only heard the later stuff knew what they missed. I think Limp Bizkit has to take the honor though, of being the band that makes me quickest to turn off the radio. Oh wait, but then there's Frankie Valli, and Gary Puckett and the Union Gap Band... "Young girl, get out of my mind..." AAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHH!!!! MAKE IT STOP!!!!! --Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3Nut Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 Dave Bryce opined: I'm with Dan big-time here - I also am a Journey foe. It's mainly Steve Perry's voice - it just bugs the daylights out of me..What about Journey's first album? No Steve Perry in sight, Gregg Rolie handled the vocal duties, and the heavy influence Carlos Santana had on him and Neal Schon was still fresh. I like that record. I can pass on the later stuff though. And some of Styx's stuff isn't bad...The Grand Illusion has some good almost-prog moments. But most of the selections put forth here as shut-that-off-or-you're-toast material hit the nail on the head. I used to work in a factory where they piped in "music" to torture the hapless employees with. Many of these songs listed here would vomit forth sadistically from those squawky horn speakers. Whoever recorded that song "You know that I loooove myyyyyyy muuuuu-sic.....ain't never gonna chaaaaange myyyyy tuuuuneee" should have done hard time. AAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!! Make it DIE!!!!!!!! TP --- Todd A. Phipps "...no, I'm not a Hammondoholic...I can stop anytime..." http://www.facebook.com/b3nut ** http://www.blueolives.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucktunes Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure. I actually liked a lot of Styx's music up to and including "Pieces Of Eight". Maybe it's just because I don't pay much attention to lyrics! I agree they started turning shmaltzy after that, though. I can take or leave a lot of Journey's more bubblegum stuff, but I think "Seperate Ways" rocks. I've always dug that tune. Originally posted by B3Nut: Whoever recorded that song "You know that I loooove myyyyyyy muuuuu-sic.....ain't never gonna chaaaaange myyyyy tuuuuneee" should have done hard time. AAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHH!!! Make it DIE!!!!!!!!That was Loggins and Messina, IIRC. It was their other hit. Peace all, Steve ><> Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B3Nut Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 That was Loggins and Messina, IIRC. It was their other hit. Ahh...I was afraid of that. The same folks who gave us the cool "House At Pooh Corner" gave us that turkey, ah. Speaking of Kenny Loggins, his "Danger Zone" tune from Top Gun is another cheesy tune I suspect a lot of us would rather forget. The cheesy synth organ patch they used in that tune is especially hideous. That's 2 songs that movie littered the American musical landscape with. Errrrrrk. TP --- Todd A. Phipps "...no, I'm not a Hammondoholic...I can stop anytime..." http://www.facebook.com/b3nut ** http://www.blueolives.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 Originally posted by Dave Bryce: Originally posted by Dan South: [QB}I also hate every song ever released by Journey without exception.I'm with Dan big-time here - I also am a Journey foe. It's mainly Steve Perry's voice - it just bugs the daylights out of me... The lead singer for Supertramp...what is it - Roger Hodgson? His voice bugs me too. dB[/QB]You guys ever heard anything off the first three (I think) Journey albums? The ones BEFORE "Infinity", with Gregg Rolie singing lead? There was some interesting stuff there... Yeah, that "Logical" Supertramp song. His voice and Geddy Lee from Rush both bug me. As to accordion, a little bit of Zydeco is great by me...how's bayou? "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELP71 Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 Also: ELP's "Are You Ready, Eddy?" Aaaarrgghh. Sorry...that 'song' was obviously a joke to fill out the album. A song's only bad if the person or people perpetuating intend for it to be GOOD. My two cents. Weasels ripped my flesh. Rzzzzzzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP3 Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 "Mother" by The Police. This Andy Summers ditty is most likely the reason that Sting went solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightnin digits Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 ..."Free Bird" and any number of cruddy "Southern Rock" tunes I had to play in the '70's... Fine for sixstringers, but borrrring for Keyboard players. Soylent Green is People!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Worthington Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 "Kiss Kiss Kiss" and every other song ever written by Yoko Ono. Oh, wait. Double Fantasy won a Grammy for best album, and half the songs were Yoko's. So she must be, in fact, a great songwriter, because they would never give a Grammy to a tuneless, unoriginal, obnoxious hack, would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Originally posted by lightnin' digits: ..."Free Bird" and any number of cruddy "Southern Rock" tunes I had to play in the '70's... Fine for sixstringers, but borrrring for Keyboard players.Wrong, I'm a six stringer and that stuff makes me go YAAWWWWNNNN too! UUGGGHH... Supertramp, the Logical Song, you had to remind me of that one. And Foreigner... geez... see, I had blocked half this stuff out and you guys made me remember it!! --Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan South Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Originally posted by B3Nut: What about Journey's first album? No Steve Perry in sight, Gregg Rolie handled the vocal duties, and the heavy influence Carlos Santana had on him and Neal Schon was still fresh. I like that record. I can pass on the later stuff though. Point taken. I was referring to Steve Perry-era Journey. I always liked Gregg Rolie's work in Santana. The Black Knight always triumphs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightnin digits Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 ...Lee Flier, I'm not wrong 'coz it's not a right or wrong question. It's an opinion. Those were bad songs, we agree-but based on my experience (not yours) my opinion stands; the sixstringers I played with loved them. You can disagree, but that doesn't make me wrong. Soylent Green is People!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbyjoe Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Starlight by The Supermen Lovers k "Consider how much coffee you're drinking - it's probably not enough." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP3 Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 "Afternoon Delight" - Starland Vocal Band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botch. Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 The Rodeo Song Botch "Eccentric language often is symptomatic of peculiar thinking" - George Will www.puddlestone.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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