g05 Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 whether it's perfect, mint, or excellent condition, everyone has their own definition. i know i can't be the only one who has gone through this. anyone out there buy used equipment advertised under mint condition and only to find once you see the gear, it's not so mint? scratches, dents, or maybe worse? annoying isn't it? i'm only writing this because i just recently bought some equipment over e-bay advertised under perfect condition. when i got the piece, they did a poor packing job and one of the rack ears was bent. how do you bend a rack ear? maybe it's just me being obsessive-compulsive. anyone out there return their gear or walk away from a deal from a private seller? i need stories, so let's hear em! i guess this could be the "cousin" thread to "scratches on your synth". g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 This may sound odd, but i tend to avoid buying anything that is advertised with words like "perfect", "great cond", "barely used". These are ambiguous terms that more often then not signify the seller is hiding something. The accepted words are: new, mint, excellent, very good, good, poor. Along with that an accurate assessment of scratches, dents, defects should be written in the description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbrock1san.rr.com Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 I've only purchased one piece of used gear online, and I got lucky because it was in such great condition. I just seem to like gear made in 2001 and don't see the need for older gear, be it keyboards, guitars, or recording equipment. I know people save money by buying used gear but I like to buy brand-new quality gear and then hold onto it for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod S Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 I've always had bad luck buying used anything electronic. I can buy it, check it out thoroughly, it will work perfectly than break down 2 months later. It's amazing. There's been exceptions, but my 'failure rate' just doesn't excite me too much to buy anything used. I personally avoid it. I rather spend the money and buy it new, and hold on to it. The only piece of gear I've ever sold was my kurz micropiano, which became redudant after I bought my pc88mx. I typically hold on to stuff. A lot of people call it 'great' condition, but it's their definition of what great should look like after a few years of abuse http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif. When I sold my micropiano, it was mint. The guy who picked up was pretty happy. I even had the original box, he might as well have bought in the store. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Korg Kronos X73 / ARP Odyssey / Motif ES Rack / Roland D-05 / JP-08 / SE-05 / Jupiter Xm / Novation Mininova / NL2X / Waldorf Pulse II MBP-LOGIC American Deluxe P-Bass, Yamaha RBX760 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowly Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 I sold my gear on E-Bay as used, and I tried to give an as accurate description as possible. I kept the original packiing box and even added some padding. I think I did this mostly because I liked the board and didn`t want it damaged even if it wasn`t mine anymore. No, I know that was why. The insurance was mute. I did sweat for about a week because I packed an optional transformer into the same box. It weighted about 4 or 5 pounds and could move around a little inside the box. Thankfully, all arrived well without damage. the new owner is very happy and gave me my brownie points. If your seller deserves a bad review, be sure and give it to them. thats about the only way things like that will improve. Casey "Let It Be!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steadyb Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 I've had good luck. I bought a Prophet-10 a few years back that really was mint...perfect working condition, not a scratch, an unblemished, uncreased, untorn owners manual, the original factory programs on the factory micro-cassette, and... ...oh yeah, um,...I got it for $450.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 Originally posted by steadyb: I've had good luck. I bought a Prophet-10 a few years back that really was mint...perfect working condition, not a scratch, an unblemished, uncreased, untorn owners manual, the original factory programs on the factory micro-cassette, and... ...oh yeah, um,...I got it for $450.00. hey steadyb, I'll give you $500.00 for it. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 $550. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 Seriously, steadyb, what's the story on this? It sounds like the "little old lady" scenario, but I can't quite picture Aunt Martha playing "Tiny Bubbles" on a Prophet-10. Bart Garratt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 It depends on how you take care of your gear. My JP8000 has traveled quite a bit since I got it, and still hasn't a single scratch. I could clear my presets, put it back in the box, and sell it as NIB - no one would know. Now I have to go create a "Tiny Bubbles" preset on it http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Originally posted by bg: Seriously, steadyb, what's the story on this? It sounds like the "little old lady" scenario, but I can't quite picture Aunt Martha playing "Tiny Bubbles" on a Prophet-10. Bart Garratt I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 I don't question that it's in perfect condition. My point is that only a little old lady would think a mint P-10 was worth only $450. Aunt Martha: "It has a nice wood finish, but no speakers!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 There was a time, late-80s to early-90s, when analogs were completely out of fashion. I once bought a Minimoog (which wasn't mint) for a few hundred dollars. I sold it a short while later for no profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steadyb Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 Originally posted by bg: Seriously, steadyb, what's the story on this? It sounds like the "little old lady" scenario, but I can't quite picture Aunt Martha playing "Tiny Bubbles" on a Prophet-10. Bart Garratt Actually it was a professional pianist that had the thing for 10 years sitting on top of his piano and just never played it. It was 1989 and the D-50 and M-1 were king. I only had $450 to my name, so I had to talk the guy down from $500. I used it on several projects including a few albums, and even a track I got to play on with the legendary Hal Blaine, which was very cool. steadyb This message has been edited by steadyb on 08-13-2001 at 11:54 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 Pretty cool, steadyb, and a rare find at any price. Sounds like it's in good hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegerardi Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 I'll second that about the price. I sold my P-10 for $900.00 in 1993 and was happy to get that for it. ..Joe This message has been edited by joegerardi on 08-13-2001 at 02:51 PM Setup: Korg Kronos 61, Roland XV-88, Korg Triton-Rack, Motif-Rack, Korg N1r, Alesis QSR, Roland M-GS64 Yamaha KX-88, KX76, Roland Super-JX, E-Mu Longboard 61, Kawai K1II, Kawai K4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegerardi Posted August 13, 2001 Share Posted August 13, 2001 Oops. No sleep last night. Sorry... This message has been edited by joegerardi on 08-13-2001 at 02:51 PM Setup: Korg Kronos 61, Roland XV-88, Korg Triton-Rack, Motif-Rack, Korg N1r, Alesis QSR, Roland M-GS64 Yamaha KX-88, KX76, Roland Super-JX, E-Mu Longboard 61, Kawai K1II, Kawai K4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midispaceho Posted August 14, 2001 Share Posted August 14, 2001 I think I managed to get the pissed off divorce senario when I bought a prophet 600 and a Roland TR505 in good condition for 100 bucks last year. She was selling all of her ex-husbands stuff. No manual (for the prophet) though. Heeeeeere kitty kitty kitty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFOracle Posted August 14, 2001 Share Posted August 14, 2001 I think I managed to get the pissed off divorce senario when I bought a prophet 600 and a Roland TR505 in good condition for 100 bucks last year. She was selling all of her ex-husbands stuff. No manual (for the prophet) though. What a deal! I guess I'll have to watch for pissed off divorcees. Maybe I could accelerate the process a bit. Find someone whose rig I'm envious of and start spreading rumors. Our country is not the only thing to which we owe our allegiance. It is also owed to justice and to humanity. Patriotism consists not in waving the flag, but in striving that our country shall be righteous as well as strong: James Bryce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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