Jeep Posted August 6, 2001 Share Posted August 6, 2001 Let's, for a moment, mentally put ourselves in the shoes of our fellow musicians: the guitarists, bassists, drummers, etc., etc., that play, or are likely to play, in our band or on our recording. Knowing how most of us obsess about our keyboards, amplification, and related paraphernalia, we can be sure that they too, ponder at length the relative merits of the tremendous variety of instruments available to them. Assuming that they have the appropriate "chops", does their choice of a specific brand or model of gear really matter to you? What gear would you prefer them to be using? It would probably be enlightening to get their thoughts, if any, about our keyboard gear choices. This message has been edited by Jeep on 08-06-2001 at 05:46 AM This message has been edited by Jeep on 08-06-2001 at 05:52 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted August 6, 2001 Share Posted August 6, 2001 Who cares what brand of gear someone uses, unless there's endorsement money involved? All I care about is they get a good sound, and play stuff appropriate to the music at hand. That's ALL that ever counts - brand/type of gear doesn't matter a bit. JMO of course. PEACE Originally posted by Jeep: Assuming that they have the appropriate "chops", does their choice of a specific brand or model of gear really matter to you? What gear would you prefer them to be using? I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksoper Posted August 6, 2001 Share Posted August 6, 2001 A competent player on mediocre gear will sound...ok. A competent player on great gear will sound professional. If you want to run with the big boys, you must buy what they're using--then play your behind off. I learned this the hard way many years ago. You must spend the money. Now--does it matter whether my drummer is using the top-of-the-line Gretsch kit versus a similar Yamaha or Slingerland kit? No, not really. Just don't show up to the gig with some Pearl Exports and expect them to sound like Gretsch. Would you rather hear your bass player using a Lakland through an Eden rig or a Peavey bass through an SVT? So--it doesn't matter to me what they're playing as long as it's the same kind of stuff used by the session guys on the records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geosync Posted August 6, 2001 Share Posted August 6, 2001 A rule that I have used all my career. Buy the very best gear you can, then if something doesn't sound right blame yourself . That philosophy has worked for me in every situation. Take Care, George Hamilton Yamaha US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted August 6, 2001 Share Posted August 6, 2001 Originally posted by Jeep: Assuming that they have the appropriate "chops", does their choice of a specific brand or model of gear really matter to you? What gear would you prefer them to be using? For the Guitar player on my band, it is Not a brand or model issue, since we all know he loves his IBANEZ with a Floyd Rose http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif However, we agree in using gear fully programmable, with MIDI and other ammenities so it could be controlled remotely by my computer and we could use its internal EQ / Compressor / etc... before recording in order we can get the best result possible without a lot of processing after the take... perhaps some other EQ, but I do preffer to get it right at the fisrt take. Originally posted by Jeep: It would probably be enlightening to get their thoughts, if any, about our keyboard gear choices. He actually respects what do I use and is always impressed when I show him a new Plug IN or sound I got... and of course, being a democracy, I'm always open to listen my band mates suggestions regarding a specific sound or arrangement I do... that is being a band, right? ------------------ Gustavo G Lozada Moderador de: MusicPlayer.com/NuestroForo "La voz en Español en Música y Tecnología" GusTraX @yahoo.com Músico, Productor, Ingeniero, Tecnólogo Senior Product Manager, América Latina y Caribe - PreSonus at Fender Musical Instruments Company Instagram: guslozada Facebook: Lozada - Música y Tecnología www.guslozada.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod S Posted August 6, 2001 Share Posted August 6, 2001 Not so much their gear, but how they take care of their gear. Example : Played with this outstanding guitar player. Didn't take care of his cables and pedals. We were delayed almost every single show because he was trying to troubleshoot a cable problem. Halfway through a song his guitar would stop working. I think it's expected for musicians to at least have 'decent' gear. Got a call from a drummer several years ago (still when I was in Brazil) who played with a guitar player, and was trying to form a band. He said the guitar player had a 'strat' and he had tama drums. I didn't ask, which got me a little worried why he said that. Well, I get there and the guy had this cheap brazilian strat imitation (they called it stratosonic I think). The drums had this set of drums which obviously weren't a TAMA set, and sounded like shit. I mean, I could probably have built the drums myself and have them sound better. They were OK musicians, but the stuff sounded like shit, and I knew it was just going to be an excercise in frustration. It also matters when they bring gear to gigs they are not familiar with. Case in point. Late 80's. Our drummer (very good, BTW), decides to borrow a set of Simmons electronic drums. Has never used the damn thing in the past. Result : kept messing up the fills because he didn't know how to incorporate the new sounds in his playing and got confused with the different response in the pads. Korg Kronos X73 / ARP Odyssey / Motif ES Rack / Roland D-05 / JP-08 / SE-05 / Jupiter Xm / Novation Mininova / NL2X / Waldorf Pulse II MBP-LOGIC American Deluxe P-Bass, Yamaha RBX760 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowfingers Posted August 6, 2001 Share Posted August 6, 2001 live, so long as the gear looks right and sounds good-ish and works im happy. the tone from their amps must be good but hell, you might be playing in a pub with crap acoustics so you cant depend that much on the sound.the guitarist and bassist in my band are way more obsessed than me as regards tone, im happy getting the right drawbar settings and a close sound to the real instrument im supposed to be playing (if im using a synth). my tc -starfucker Visit my band : www.neonfleacircus.net or www.myspace.com/neonfleacircus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Posted August 7, 2001 Author Share Posted August 7, 2001 Just for the sake of comparison, I posted a somewhat similar question, but regarding keyboard players and their gear, etc., on another music forum that is predominently non-keyboard players. You may be interested in their responses: http://www.fenderforum.com/fdp.html?message_area_number=24&topic_number=128113&offset=0 http://www.fenderforum.com/fdp.html?message_area_number=24&topic_number=128113&offset=19 Be sure to scroll down at first. They're just 2 pages of the same thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh dri Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 im happy if they have enough spare cables and connectors and stop using mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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