Beatnik Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 LISTEN THE DRUMS ON THE BEATLES SONGS "RAIN", "She said she said", "A DAY IN THE LIFE" THAT IS VERY GOOD DRUMMING IN THE 60S WHAT DO YOU THINK? "Creo en la Reflexión, no en Dogmas" Beatnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 In this case I don't care who will disagree!! Ringo's drumming is perfect!!!! Yea, there are drummers who reveal more technical flash and who play very fast on the double bass but Ringo played to mix with the feel of what John and Paul wanted. Also his time keeping was and is perfect. Its like the Beatles had a metranome hooked up to a drum kit. I really like how Ringo would not do too much and that makes it easy to listen to Beatles songs and understand the total feel of each measure of every song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 Oh, I forgot...yes I have listened to those songs and what can I say? Ringo knew what the songs should "feel" like and not sound like. Do you guys know what I'm trying to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 Yes, I certainly do know what you're trying to say! Ringo is THE MAN. Our drummer's got chops for days and is all about Bonham and Moon but he's still nutso about Ringo, and is happy to play Beatles tunes all day long. Ringo's drumming worked perfectly to serve the songs, and has a great bouncy feel too. Good to see some other folks on a drum forum giving props to Ringo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 Yeah! "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 I'm glad to see Ringo get the respect he deserves. He's a MUSICAL drummer. I don't remember ever hearing a track he played on where the drumming wasn't perfect for the song. All three of the other Beatles had him on the short list for their projects. And he knows how to entertain; his All-Starr Bands are always fun. I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTL Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 Over the decades I have found over and over that drummers who dis Ringo are INVARIABLY guys who don't play for shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_dup3 Posted October 11, 2003 Share Posted October 11, 2003 Like most really good drummers he seemed to play what was required for the piece (& without taking anything away from him, he like George Harrison got a lot of advice in that regard from Lennon, McCartney & G.Martin). I think he's on record as preferring "Rain" & "Ticket To Ride" (where he & McCartney really work together). Personally I like the work he did on Lennon's odd time signature tunes like "All You Need Is Luck" , "Good Morning, Good Morning" &, especially, "Happiness Is Some Warm Gun" , where his work helps eclipse the fact that these songs are even in an odd time! "Stawberry Fields" is another inventive one. Without drawing the discussion too off base, I wonder at the comment "...for the 60s." Surely you know there've been great drummers all along, don't you? If not, I've got some stuff for you to check!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 I stand to be corrected but I've noticed that young or begginer drummers do not relize Ringo's true ability as a drummer. When I was about 15 years old I though that Ringo was over-rated and was only lucky because he just happened to be the Beatle's drummer when they came to the U.S. about 10 years ago I relized every reply stated above is true to the upmost. This is not intended to offend young or begginer drummers, its only from my personal experience. On the same note, to the begginers...listen to Ringo and LEARN!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 Lee: Love the Rickenbacker guitar!!! I play a Fender Strat Plus through a Fender Bassman amp but thats another threat in another forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss Posted October 12, 2003 Share Posted October 12, 2003 I MEAN THREAD, NOT THREAT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_dup3 Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 Originally posted by Stratbeatle: ...THAT IS VERY GOOD DRUMMING FOR THE 60S WHAT DO YOU THINK?Not to harp on it but I still wonder at the meaning of that phrase... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatnik Posted October 13, 2003 Author Share Posted October 13, 2003 For "d" Ok, First, English is not my natural language(spanish) so I make some mistakes in my grammar.What I was trying to say is "that is very good drumming in the 60s" and not "for the 60s", of course, there were many great drummers in the 60s like Keith Moon, Mitch Mitchell, Ginger Baker, John Densmore, etc. And Ringo is one of those great drummers. What can I say, I was born in 1979 and love Beatles Music. What a shame I did not live in that time. Well, I play guitar and I am not a drummer but I really love the sound of Drums well played. "Creo en la Reflexión, no en Dogmas" Beatnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelance Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 The Beatles probably had more influence than any musicians - regarding getting a generation of people to be musicians - and Ringo, certainly made a whole lot of people want to be drummers. I've read alot of things that suggest that various studio cats played most of the drum parts on Beatle's recordings - but I don't recall ever seeing anyone from the Beatles saying that (other than Paul indicating he played drums on a couple of tracks). THe drum parts were always just right for the song and in some cases (Come Together as an example) were also very creative. Not only was (is) Ringo a solid drummer, but his humor and his personality were huge - I still love to see him in interviews (he still has that same dry sense of humor). He has always been one of my "idols" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_dup3 Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 SBeatle, Thanks for responding! Don't worry (if you even were), your English is fine---better than many US citizens! I wondered because there're, occasionally, young musicians who develop overly "time-line progressive" ideas about musical development... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musa Posted October 21, 2003 Share Posted October 21, 2003 peace. it is true the value of ringo (and charlie watts, for that matter) is likley to be appreciated as the drummer grows. in the beginning we are all blinded by chops, flash etc. but as we grow we learn to appreciate taste. it's hard to immagine the beatles with a diffeernt drum sound. still there's always the old pretty purdie's controversy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 I know that when I play on a track written by someone, my first thought is to ask that person "What would you like me to play here?" Only if it truly ain't working (or if they solicit my opinion) will I suggest an idea of my own. And when I write material, I expect the players to play what I've written. There's nothing more irksome than someone who comes in and has to "put their own stamp" on what you've written. That's egotism at its worst.... I commend the Ringos of the world who can do what you ask of them. They are the true pros. Originally posted by d: (& without taking anything away from him, he like George Harrison got a lot of advice in that regard from Lennon, McCartney & G.Martin) I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_dup3 Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Originally posted by musa: peace. it is true the value of ringo (and charlie watts, for that matter) is likley to be appreciated as the drummer grows. in the beginning we are all blinded by chops, flash etc. but as we grow we learn to appreciate taste. it's hard to immagine the beatles with a diffeernt drum sound. still there's always the old pretty purdie's controversy...Bernard Purdie's a great drummer but the story he (keeps?) flailing about overdubbing the drums on early Beatle records is plainly impossible if you consider the technology of the times*...not to mention that a little known group from England wouldn't have had the pull to have such work done. [*How's he "fix" the tempo of previously recorded band tracks by overdubbing later?] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jode Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Anybody who thinks Ringo didn't have at least a couple of chops should cover "I Feel Fine." You play that cymbal bell part in time, smartass. "She Came In Through The Bathroom Window" grooves right along, too, at a tough-to-keep mid-tempo. Too many drummers don't realize how very hard it is to play slowly, and Ringo is an excellent slow drummer. "I had to have something, and it wasn't there. I couldn't go down the street and buy it, so I built it." Les Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantasticsound Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 I love the Beatles, so read accordingly. While I love listening to Neil Peart, Omar Hakim, Keith Moon, et. al., I can say, unequivocally, that Ringo is one of my favorite drummers. You don't produce that many amazing recordings with a hack musician.. on any instrument. BTW... Originally posted by ss: Lee: Love the Rickenbacker guitar!!! I play a Fender Strat Plus through a Fender Bassman amp but thats another threat in another forum!You don't mean the guitar in Lee's avatar, do you?? That would be a 1952 Gibson Les Paul that Lee modified to have a stop-bar tailpiece in place of the original trapeze. It's easiest to find me on Facebook. Neil Bergman Soundclick fntstcsnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Ringo's the best! What I truly dig about him is the playing hi hat with left hand and riding cymbal with right. He also does that deal riding hat with his right hand where he has his wrist facing up and slices back and forth to get a super quick beat. Most all drummers I've met have to use both hands to tap a hat that fast! -David http://www.garageband.com/artist/MichaelangelosMuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Flier Posted October 23, 2003 Share Posted October 23, 2003 Originally posted by DC: Most all drummers I've met have to use both hands to tap a hat that fast!Except ours, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatnik Posted October 24, 2003 Author Share Posted October 24, 2003 Please Listen these Ringo drumming with the Beatles Yer blues here Ringo sounds like Mitch Mitchell Long long long, Sexy Sadie, Cry baby cry, Savoy truffle Well, if you dont have the White Album what are you waiting for? "Creo en la Reflexión, no en Dogmas" Beatnik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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