sparksongs Posted January 29, 2003 Share Posted January 29, 2003 Hello. Just wondering if anyone is familiar with thin-shell drums that were sometimes referred to a "pancake" drums. I remember seeing them years ago, and they were one way for drummers to have less to carry around. I haven't seen them for a while, so I'm figuring that they (1) weren't very popular and/or (2) didn't sound very good. Pearl currently offers the "Rhythm Travler" set, which is a similar concept, but with slightly wider shells. Any comments or knowledge on this would be appreciated - thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymbals Posted February 13, 2003 Share Posted February 13, 2003 There was also the older Remo PTS (pre-tuned series) drums - shallow shells that all folded up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeq Posted February 15, 2003 Share Posted February 15, 2003 There are the Arbiter Flats drums Arbiter Flats I think I have seen one or two other brands still around. Some of these kits will have a double headed (but still very thin) snare drum. I did a gig where we sat in on another band's equipment that included a flat drum kit. When my singer saw the drummer setting up his whole kit from a single bag he carried over his shoulder, she said why don't you use drums like that? When it was our turn on stage I played a little fill on the "toms" = "Puh!" "Puh!" "Puh!" She made a face. "That's why" I said Still if you have club date in a downtown area with no decent place to park or even unload, they can be just the ticket. A two headed snare is decent and if you are taping/muffling the kick anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumtek Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 For a short while, my compact set-up was an 18" bass drum, snare and 3 Remo Roto-toms. (very)small size, big sound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offramp Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 "Puh!" "Puh!" "Puh!" SOunds like a tuning issue. Every 'shallow' kit I've heard has sounded really damned good; this is, of course, given that they were in the hands of knowledgeables. I've upped my standards; now, up yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djarrett Posted February 23, 2003 Share Posted February 23, 2003 Also Orange County and DW make drums that are shallow in the Professional caliber of drums. DW called the Fast Toms. I had a set of the DW's that were killer! PHAT sound. Unfortunatly, I got caught in a downpour at Fan Fair in Nashville about 4 years ago, and my satin finish was ruined. Insurance is a good thing! DJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 There used to be a company called Purecussion which made shell-less drums. I have this kit - 20" bd, 12" & 14" toms, along with 2 built-in cymbal stands. I used a Ludwig SupraPhonic snare. I could carry my entire kit on the subway train! The toms sound very good; the quality of the bass drum sound is very room-dependent. In some rooms it sounded great and thunderous (usually on a wood stage), and in other environs it sounded flat. Definitely NOT recommended for outdoor gigs; the bassdrum just doesn't project without walls. I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 8 Posted March 22, 2003 Share Posted March 22, 2003 I would think you would really have to mic a kit like that to get anything out of it -unless you were in a pretty small room. Super 8 Hear my stuff here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted April 8, 2003 Share Posted April 8, 2003 Yeah by looking at them you would think that - but it's not the case. The toms just sound GOOD regardless of environment, and if you need volume you can mic them. The bass drum is entirely room-dependent, and micing it won't rescue it in an environment where it doesn't sound good. Originally posted by Super 8: I would think you would really have to mic a kit like that to get anything out of it -unless you were in a pretty small room. I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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