Redknife Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Moog used to sell an upgrade kit for the Moog Sub 37 to upgrade the keyboard action to TP/9s, along with other software upgrades to convert the Sub 37 to a Subsequent 37. Moog’s website says they no longer offer the upgrade kit. I have a bad key contact and as happens, my jets have yellowed. my question is: Will a TP/9s action fit as a direct swap for the Sub 37 keyboard action? For instance, I don’t know if the plugs are the same or if there is a firmware requirement when swapping these actions. I reached out to Moog technical support about a week ago and no reply yet. Thanks for any input. Quote Chris Main gear: Yamaha C7, Kronos 2 88, Moog Sub 37, CK61, Kurzweil PC2x, Pearl epro, Mac/Logic/AUs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I wish I knew the answer to this. I haven't been inside a Sub37 so I don't know what the connections are. Do you know what keybed it uses as stock? Quote Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redknife Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 I have read reference to Moog using a “Hoaxin” keybed for the stock Sub 37 8 hours ago, Jim Alfredson said: I wish I knew the answer to this. I haven't been inside a Sub37 so I don't know what the connections are. Do you know what keybed it uses as stock? Quote Chris Main gear: Yamaha C7, Kronos 2 88, Moog Sub 37, CK61, Kurzweil PC2x, Pearl epro, Mac/Logic/AUs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redknife Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 I’ve opened the case and inspected the keybed. Based on this reference for the TP/9s Fatar TP/9s Data Sheet, the TP/9s has a double row connector. Conversely, the keybed in the Sub 37 has 2 single row connectors. Each have a 3rd connector emanating from the side of the keybed. I don’t think the TP/9s will work without some modification. as to the current actual problem: I cleaned the contact on low C which now works but c#, d,d# are newly intermittent. I’ll re-address the contacts. Here are some pics of the stock Sub 37: showing connectors: Quote Chris Main gear: Yamaha C7, Kronos 2 88, Moog Sub 37, CK61, Kurzweil PC2x, Pearl epro, Mac/Logic/AUs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 13 minutes ago, Redknife said: Each have a 3rd connector emanating from the side of the keybed. I'll guess that's for the aftertouch. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redknife Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 Agreed 5 minutes ago, AnotherScott said: I'll guess that's for the aftertouch. Quote Chris Main gear: Yamaha C7, Kronos 2 88, Moog Sub 37, CK61, Kurzweil PC2x, Pearl epro, Mac/Logic/AUs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redknife Posted March 6 Author Share Posted March 6 I could only find a few markings on the stock 37 key keybed: Quote Chris Main gear: Yamaha C7, Kronos 2 88, Moog Sub 37, CK61, Kurzweil PC2x, Pearl epro, Mac/Logic/AUs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Alfredson Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Those contacts look like Fatar to me, but I don't know which model. Quote Keep it greazy! B3tles - Soul Jazz THEO - Prog Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redknife Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 Could be, Jim. I have had trouble finding a good source of info about the original Sub 37 action manufacturer/model. 6 hours ago, Jim Alfredson said: Those contacts look like Fatar to me, but I don't know which model. Quote Chris Main gear: Yamaha C7, Kronos 2 88, Moog Sub 37, CK61, Kurzweil PC2x, Pearl epro, Mac/Logic/AUs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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