OT - You say you want to win the "hottest chili" contest?

[bill5]

Pepper X (not to be confused with Racer X) should do it.... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67136085

 

 

[KenElevenShadows]

Wow. That sounds punishing.

 

I can eat spicy-hot food more than most people. But I don't eat it just because it's hot. I eat it because it contributes to the overall flavor and experience and because it tastes great that way. Indian, Sichuan, Southern Thai, Kashmiri? Yeah. Love it!

 

But this sort of thing sounds brutal.

[bill5]

Exactly, agreed on all counts. This guy is like some kind of pepper genius...he's had the world's record for hottest peppers for a long time. Personally I doubt I'd ever even try it...there is such a thing as too hot. I still want to be able to taste the flavor of whatever.

[analogika]

What a stupid name.

[bill5]

lol can't argue there. But it's the pepper that matters....

 

I think I'll just stick with ceyenne and habanero.   

[KenElevenShadows]

1 hour ago, analogika said:

What a stupid name.

 

Pepper X? Yeah. It should sound more menacing. Carolina Reaper or Ghost Pepper seem like better names to me.

[ProfD]

I'm also a huge fan of spicy hot food that most folks probably cannot eat. Still has to taste good too.

 

Eating a pepper only to be on fire 3.5 hours and stomach cramps and laying on a marble wall in the rain is insane. 

 

Reads like the guy should have had medical personnel on hand to neutralize the capsaicin he ingested.🤣

 

That being written, I look forward to trying pepper X in a hot sauce.😁😎

 

 

[Anderton]

7 hours ago, analogika said:

What a stupid name.

 

It was originally called Pepper Twitter, but for some reason he changed it to Pepper X.

[KuruPrionz]

I cook with fresh habanero peppers because they have a great flavor. I'm careful not to use too much, I always cook it and testing has shown that there is less heat and more flavor after refrigerating the cooked food overnight. 

Typical starting point for cooking a pot of food is put diced garlic, ginger root, red onion and one habanero in a cast iron pot with olive oil and a bit of butter and cook that down. Then I add some meat - usually chicken thighs or beef and tomatoes to make a spicy sauce with meat. I put that over vegetables but I cook the vegetable separately and just cook enough for the meal each time. 

It's pretty hot but tasty. It doesn't cause brain damage or destroy my gastro-intestinal tract. I've overdone it on the habaneros before, one taste and I knew I had to split the sauce in half and add more tomatoes and meat to tame it enough. 

[o0Ampy0o]

I was searching for a Tabasco sauce with all that Tabasco flavor except without the hot. It was many years ago, many. I thought I found it. Somewhere along the line I forgot about using any Tabasco sauce on food and lost track of the hot-less Tabasco sauce. 
 

You know the sauce on Chinese peanut salad dressing? For some reason few salad dressing brands offer it. By accident I discovered something that is identical but known as something else. Unfortunately that is one other food I have forgotten to have in a long time and have long since forgotten what that identical thing is.
 

You know the secret to that creamy Thousand Island dressing in Hungry Hunters? They just increase the proportion of mayo. 
 

 

[bill5]

51 minutes ago, o0Ampy0o said:

I was searching for a Tabasco sauce with all that Tabasco flavor except without the hot.

 

That describes every Tabasco sauce I ever tried tbh. About as hot as water.

[KuruPrionz]

49 minutes ago, bill5 said:

That describes every Tabasco sauce I ever tried tbh. About as hot as water.

^^^What he said.^^^

Slightly hotter than water but not much. Too much vinegar as well. Not really a hot sauce. 

My favorite commonly used pepper is habanero. Many hot sauces use jalapeño and it's ok but it just doesn't have the flavor that habanero has.

Best to make your own hot sauce, a friend dubbed mine "The Bowl of Death" but he kept eating it anyway. 

[o0Ampy0o]

5 minutes ago, KuruPrionz said:

Best to make your own hot sauce, a friend dubbed mine "The Bowl of Death" but he kept eating it anyway. 

 

A reference to what he anticipated the following day?

[o0Ampy0o]

1 hour ago, bill5 said:

That describes every Tabasco sauce I ever tried tbh. About as hot as water.

 

Know of any as cold as water?

[o0Ampy0o]

2 hours ago, o0Ampy0o said:

You know the sauce on Chinese peanut salad dressing? For some reason few salad dressing brands offer it. By accident I discovered something that is identical but known as something else. Unfortunately that is one other food I have forgotten to have in a long time and have long since forgotten what that identical thing is.

 

Chinese chicken salad dressing that is something else:

I make a stir fry of orange chicken, bell pepper and pineapple. I toss it in a bowl with orange sauce. I take leaves of Romaine lettuce and scoop up some of the stir fry and eat it like a taco shell. I don't bother drying the lettuce after washing it so it has some water on it. That thins the orange sauce. Sometimes I have also just torn up the Romaine lettuce and dumped it on top of the stir fry eating it like a salad. By accident I realized the orange sauce on the wet Romaine lettuce leaves tasted like the Chinese chicken salad dressing.

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, KuruPrionz said:

Best to make your own hot sauce

True. Especially for getting the right amount of heat and flavor. Same applies to marinades.😎

[David Emm]

I've always marveled at the weird love for super-hot sauces. There's a large, competitive culture behind it. The NAMES are often hilarious and unrepeatable, even on here. I recall one named "Mama Zuma's Revenge." My pal said "Just put a bit on the tip of your tongue." It was a mix between Godzilla sneezing and a Tex Avery cartoon. I. Belched. FIRE. I still can't recall my middle name.

 

I like a little edge in some foods, but I draw the line at farting and having flames destroy my chair. When any of Those People grins and says "C'mon, try it, its good!," I know they just want to see flames erupt from my nether regions. Sorry, but I'm too old to handle the screaming and frog-like jumping that go with it. Tip: the paler the pepper, the more scar tissue you'll have afterwards. You know where.

[bill5]

3 hours ago, David Emm said:

I've always marveled at the weird love for super-hot sauces.

In my experience, it's usually a "macho" thing. Which gets rather tedious after about, oh, high school. 

[KuruPrionz]

52 minutes ago, bill5 said:

In my experience, it's usually a "macho" thing. Which gets rather tedious after about, oh, high school. 

I think part of it is the pain releases endorphins, which bring a serene and peaceful sense of well being. Weird, I know, but true nonetheless. 

[bill5]

That is weird. Any time I ate something too hot I just remember the pain Or at least no peace etc!

[KenElevenShadows]

33 minutes ago, bill5 said:

That is weird. Any time I ate something too hot I just remember the pain Or at least no peace etc!

 

Yeah, I recall no serenity with something too hot either. I mean, it's very rare that I have a meal that is too hot, but all the same.....

[KuruPrionz]

55 minutes ago, bill5 said:

That is weird. Any time I ate something too hot I just remember the pain Or at least no peace etc!

Pain can cause endorphins to flow. So can exercise. We are all different. It's possible you had endorphins flowing but the pain kept you from feeling them. 

 

I enjoy spicy food but I don't enjoy insanely hot food. Habanero peppers are very hot but they have wonderful flavor. 

 

So a little goes a long way. I don't really care for jalapeños, they are not as hot as habanero peppers but they have a much lower flavor to hotness ratio. To me, they just don't taste as good. 

 

[bill5]

1 hour ago, KuruPrionz said:

Habanero peppers are very hot but they have wonderful flavor. 

 

They can vary....there are orange and even green habanero sauces that are pretty mild. But yeah the riper ones aren't to be messed with   

 

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 I don't really care for jalapeños, they are not as hot as habanero peppers but they have a much lower flavor to hotness ratio. To me, they just don't taste as good. 

Agreed. And for some reason they kick my tail, I don't know why. 

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, bill5 said:

In my experience, it's usually a "macho" thing.  

Spicy foods is a cultural thing too.

 

I know plenty dudes who cannot stand spicy foods and women who love it. 😎

[o0Ampy0o]

Two hot sauce anecdotes:

 

1. We were moving during a heatwave. The wife had work out of town to get to and my friend had to leave after helping with things I could not do alone. I was left to finish up. I would rendezvous with the wife at a friend's who was traveling and we would be house sitting.

 

The final things frequently take longer than anticipated in my experience. I kept missing my target day to be finished up. It was now 2 days later. It was blazing hot. I had been at it around the clock just taking naps. At one point I sat down in a chair outside in the ally of the storage buildings. I sat back staring up at the afternoon sky exhausted and pleaded quietly too myself something like "get me through this." I could not put this off. It could be endless.

 

I decided to get something to eat. This town was the only town I trusted eating at Taco Bell. Left that town 30+ years ago and it was the last time I ate Taco Bell. I ordered a dozen tacos. They threw in a lot of the hot sauce packets. It was 120? degrees in the sun and inside the storage space that afternoon. I never put hot sauce on anything but it sounded good so I decided to use all of the hot sauce packets. The dozen tacos vaporized in my mouth and all that got to my stomach was the idea of a taco. To my surprise I felt revitalized and managed to finish up that day. I attributed it to the hot sauce.

 

2. Years later there was an episode of Larry David's Curb Your Enthusiasm. Larry and his wife Cheryl drive out to an old friend's house for dinner. This friend, Gil, happens to be an ex-porn star. During dinner Gil tells a story about filming a scene when the power went out. Eventually someone in production applied Tabasco to his exit door. The power came back up. They were able to complete the film.

 

 

[KenElevenShadows]

4 hours ago, ProfD said:

Spicy foods is a cultural thing too.

 

I know plenty dudes who cannot stand spicy foods and women who love it. 😎

 

Yeah, definitely a cultural thing. Also, I love spicy food too. I don't consider myself macho, and have no desire to be macho.

[Mighty Motif Max]

I grew up with a dad who grew tons of hot peppers - want to eat a fresh habañero off the plant at 95 degrees F in the sun? Been there, done that! We usually grew serranos, habañeros, hot bananas, and some years hot cherry peppers. Great stuff.

 

For me, there has to be a good flavor involved - I'm not one for eating super spicy food just for the sake of eating something spicy. A great example of this is ghost peppers. I'm not a fan of the taste as I find it weirdly fruity. However, I do love a good ghost pepper salsa where the peppers have been smoked a bit. In my experience, a great way to get the flavor from some of the super hot varieties of peppers without making people suffer is to add a bit to fresh salsas - Trinidad Scorpions in a fresh tomato salsa are delicious IMO, because you can enjoy the taste without the enjoyment-obliterating heat.

 

More recently I've gotten into East African food - there's some seriously spicy stuff there as well. Bring it on.

[bill5]

12 hours ago, ProfD said:

Spicy foods is a cultural thing too.

 

I know plenty dudes who cannot stand spicy foods and women who love it. 😎

I don't mean simply liking spicey or hot foods, I mean this "I like it hotter than anyone else! Make it SUPER hot! You can't make it hot enough!" etc - 

[ProfD]

44 minutes ago, bill5 said:

I don't mean simply liking spicey or hot foods, I mean this "I like it hotter than anyone else! Make it SUPER hot! You can't make it hot enough!" etc - 

Gotcha. I've seen dudes get sick doing those challenges.🤣😎

[bill5]

Justice.