ElmerJFudd Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 The list developer says that when analyzing the data purely on sales, the cheapest noise makers dominate the list. So this is based on sales at that generate the most money for the dealer. 20 â Arturia MicroFreak â £279 19 â Polyend Tracker â £499 18 â Behringer DeepMind 12 â £622 17 â Behringer MonoPoly â £511 16 â Elektron Digitakt £629 15 â Arturia PolyBrute â £2,059 14 â Elektron Octatrack MKII â £1,111 13 â Moog Matriarch â £1,755 12 â Moog DFAM â £495 11 â Sequential Prophet 10 â £3,666 10 â Elektron Analog Rytm MKII â £1,369 9 â Roland TR-8S â £533 6 â Akai MPC Live II â £885 7 â Native Instruments Maschine + â £855 6 â Behringer Poly D â £538 5 â Korg Minilogue XD â £459 4 â Sequential Prophet REV2-8 â £1,355 3 â Teenage Engineering OP-1 â £969 2 â Behringer 2600 â £425⦠1 â Akai MPC One â £579 Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenner13 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Shockingâ¦Nord and Yamaha have nothing in the top 20. Another surprise, Dreadbox is absent. Interesting how wildly popular the OP-1 still is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 Interesting to say the least. The shift to computer DAW and hunt for unique sounds in modern production is apparent. Behringer"s sub $1k retro analogue products have made a big dent in the market. Korg and Moog have the Minilogue and DFAM to compete in that space (though the dfam is designed for percussion). If people are willing/able to spend more on an analogue synth, they choose Sequential REV2 or a Moog Matriarch. Reverb consistently shows the OP-1 as a top seller (used and new sales combined). Thomann data suggests a good chunk of that is still new sales. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoken6 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 What's the scope of the list? Does it, for example, exclude digital pianos? Cheers, Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 What's the scope of the list? Does it, for example, exclude digital pianos? Cheers, Mike. Yes. Synthesizers only. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Shockingâ¦Nord and Yamaha have nothing in the top 20. Another surprise, Dreadbox is absent. Interesting how wildly popular the OP-1 still is. The items that made the list all appeal to DJ/producer types, which is a demographic that has little intersection with MusicPlayer forum members. Nord and Yamaha do not seem interested in courting that demographic at all at the present time. Neither makes grooveboxes, drum machines, or desktop modules. They seem more interested in the Keyboard Corner demographic - that should make you guys happy, right? When I go to the Thomann site, I see a different list with Minilogue XD at #1. Maybe OP chose different criteria for sorting/filtering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRollins Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I finally scratched my Behringer/ARP 2600 itch...managed to get a sale price here in the US that more-or-less equaled what I'd have paid if I got the thing from Thomann. Speaking as a Moog-centric kind of guy, it's weird to mess with a 2600. I have fond memories of the ARP version from back in the '70s when I played bass in a band with a guy who had a real one. This is the first time I've had my hands on one since then and it's going to take getting used to. It challenges all my preconceived notions and go-to setting reflexes. Interesting to see that it's #2 on the list. While I'd be quick to point out how important ARP was for music (Weather Report, Edgar Winter, Star Wars sound effects, etc.), it never dawned on me that the bloody thing would be popular enough to rise that high on the list. I would have thought that it would be...what?...more of a nostalgia thing? I'm not sure. But for it to be that high up, it seems that the appeal is more broad-based than I'd realized. Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Emm Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 No real surprises here. For every megasynth sold, the company sells 1000+ of their entry-level instruments. You also have to be one of those 1000+ for a while before you're ready for the battleships. Make that 10,000, especially since COVID began its tour. There is meaningful appeal to being able to sound like a demigod for small change now. The $350 D-05 sounds as good as the (IIRC) $1700 D-50 did. *We The Super-Serious* are a subset of the great unwashed (and too often unvaccinated) who just want a fun distraction. Slagging Behringer for making copies seems disingenuous when most of the players are falling all over themselves to sound like Depeche Mode, Skrillex and/or Vangelis. Quote "You seem pretty calm about all that." "Well, inside, I'm screaming. ~ "The Lazarus Project" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberGene Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I lost interest in those analog synths when I bought Diva and Repro. Yeah, yeah, real knobs and some elusive real warm analog sound, not some cheap VST, whatever ð Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveCoscia Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Behringer"s sub $1k retro analogue products have made a big dent in the market. True that. It'll be interesting to see what the UBX does (it it comes out this year). Quote Steve Coscia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 UBX or Pro16⦠hmmm. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBarker Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Am I evil for being happy the MicroFreak is as far down as it is? I understand it's a neat and great sounding synth, but I DO NOT want keybeds to go in that direction. I was worried that chincy flat "cool" keybeds would be all the rage and many companies would follow suit. I already roll my eyes at Korg's Micro line, but the MicroFreak is just NOT designed for keyboard performance. I'm totally cool with it being what it is, but I don't want my favorite synth lines downsized to that crap. Quote Puck Funk! Equipment: Laptop running lots of nerdy software, some keyboards, noise makersâ¦yada yada yadaâ¦maybe a cat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunspot Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 To be fair, I don't believe the MicroFreak was targeted toward the demographic of this site - actual keyboard players. I suspect they were just trying to do something different - perhaps inspired by/an homage to the touch plate "keyboard" Don Buchla attached to the Music Easel long ago (which I've lusted after for many years but never been able to justify spending the $$$). I have a hard time believing that would start a touch plate revolution amongst other manufacturers. Quote The Players: OB-X8, Numa Compact 2X, Kawai K5000S, cheap Korean guitars/basses, Roland TD-1KV e-drums. Eurorack/Banana modular, Synth/FX DIY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Mike Metlay Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Agreed. It was just a cool way to activate notes and provide control. Nobody in their right mind wants traditional keybeds to go away entirely. I recently sold my MicroFreak. It was a fascinating instrument but I just didn't get along with the user interface. What I find a bit more irksome is that the ASM Hydrasynth isn't on this list. Everything in the top 18 is a blatant rehash of older designs, with a few new and hopefully intriguing bells and whistles here and there. My hope is that the Hydrasynth Explorer will be high on next year's list. Quote Dr. Mike Metlay (PhD in nuclear physics, golly gosh) Musician, Author, Editor, Educator, Impresario, Online Radio Guy, Cut-Rate Polymath, and Kindly Pedant Editor-in-Chief, Bjooks ~ Author of SYNTH GEMS 1 clicky!: more about me ~ my radio station (and my fam) ~ my local tribe ~ my day job ~ my book ~ my music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Hydrasynth Explorer is more likely to make the 2022 list, as it is priced and sized more for the demographic represented by Thomman's list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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