Groove On Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Could it be a daily scheduled server/database backup? I notice I tend to get the server timeouts around midnite (Eastern Standard Time). Usually lasts 1-2 hours. When I avoid those hours, I don't experience any problems. Also if MPN is on a shared server it may be someone else on the same server, running backup and maintenance near those times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I couldn't access the forum several times over the weekend... Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16251 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I don't remember this server timeout problem when Piano World (owned or ran it circa 2016 (?.) Maybe lining up ducks from then to now can shed some light and tweak the servers. Quote AvantGrand N2 | ES520 | Gallien-Krueger MK & MP | https://soundcloud.com/pete36251 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdAct Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I"ve had some problems connecting too, which is, of course, only a very minor inconvenience. Somewhat more of a bummer is that, even though it doesn"t connect on my end, it marks everything as 'read,' forcing me to scroll through the threads to find the new posts when I am finally able to connect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Don't know if this is the issue or not, but Harmony Central used to get hammered by spammers, and that would slow things down incredibly. At one point we simply blocked all users from India, and that made the site fast again...although we hated to freeze out the legit users. The spammer thing is crazy. The Roland forum handles this by having a mod approve EACH POST before it appears... which can result in days or even a week going by before your post appears, it kills any momentum of any conversation there. And ironically, unbelievably, they still get spammed sometimes, where the same post will appear in nearly every section on the board! OTOH, many forums (even others using the same underlying BB software) have instantaneous posting and virtually no spam, I don't know what they're doing differently. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Martin Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Don't know if this is the issue or not, but Harmony Central used to get hammered by spammers, and that would slow things down incredibly. At one point we simply blocked all users from India, and that made the site fast again...although we hated to freeze out the legit users. The spammer thing is crazy. The Roland forum handles this by having a mod approve EACH POST before it appears... which can result in days or even a week going by before your post appears, it kills any momentum of any conversation there. And ironically, unbelievably, they still get spammed sometimes, where the same post will appear in nearly every section on the board! OTOH, many forums (even others using the same underlying BB software) have instantaneous posting and virtually no spam, I don't know what they're doing differently. Over at www.casiomusicforums.com the software we use (Invision Community) has a pretty sophisticated anti-spam system. If bots or spammers get past the registration (rare these days), we have moderation rules in place for brand new members which limits their access and participation amounts temporarily. Quote -Mike Martin Casio Mike Martin Photography Instagram Facebook The Big Picture Photography Forum on Music Player Network The opinions I post here are my own and do not represent the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 I don't remember this server timeout problem when Piano World (owned or ran it circa 2016 (?.) When Piano World owned or ran what? Thanks to all for the feedback. I'll make sure Jim sees it. dB Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Quinn Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 Could it be a daily scheduled server/database backup? I notice I tend to get the server timeouts around midnite (Eastern Standard Time). Usually lasts 1-2 hours. When I avoid those hours, I don't experience any problems. Also if MPN is on a shared server it may be someone else on the same server, running backup and maintenance near those times. I believe our database is backed up at 1AM Eastern. It does lock up the forums for about 30 minutes because of the table type that it is completely locked while backing up. We requested a conversion to a different table type, but the developers said they would not support the change. We are on a dedicated server. Looking through the firewall logs, I can see that there have been several DDOS attacks that were eventually blocked on Sunday. Perhaps that was the cause of disruption? I put a permanent block on the IP range, so they will not be able to access the forums again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I believe our database is backed up at 1AM Eastern. It does lock up the forums for about 30 minutes It would be nice if the site could at least put up a static page at these times, saying that the site is unavailable due to nightly backup, and will be available again by about 2 am EST or whatever. Just so people know what's happening, and don't frustratingly keep attempting futile logins. Quote Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docbop Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 I believe our database is backed up at 1AM Eastern. It does lock up the forums for about 30 minutes It would be nice if the site could at least put up a static page at these times, saying that the site is unavailable due to nightly backup, and will be available again by about 2 am EST or whatever. Just so people know what's happening, and don't frustratingly keep attempting futile logins. That's what we did at a couple places I've worked. At UCLA we publized to all that online administration system is online from certain hours nightly and offline most of Sunday. Gave use big windows of time to do maintenance. At another place we switch to different landing page for our website saying site is Read Only for maintenance. That way users could still use the site they just couldn't post or make updates to their accounts. That was handy for both scheduled maintenance and emergencies. This is why I never wanted to be a DBA big production databases can be a PIA to maintain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16251 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Got server timed out at 7:30 am, EST Quote AvantGrand N2 | ES520 | Gallien-Krueger MK & MP | https://soundcloud.com/pete36251 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just ran into a nice long timeout myself. I've had it. We need to move someplace else. I'm on it. dB Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just ran into a nice long timeout myself. I've had it. We need to move someplace else. I'm on it. dB Goodie! Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16251 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just ran into a nice long timeout myself. I've had it. We need to move someplace else. I'm on it. dB You're a good man! Quote AvantGrand N2 | ES520 | Gallien-Krueger MK & MP | https://soundcloud.com/pete36251 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Quinn Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just ran into a nice long timeout myself. I've had it. We need to move someplace else. I'm on it. dB Agreed.... time to move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Just ran into a nice long timeout myself. I've had it. We need to move someplace else. I'm on it. dB Agreed.... time to move! *bows* Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 I"ve opened discussions with a potential new host. I"m cautiously optimistic. dB Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Quote "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinny Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Are the timeouts Joe"s fault? (I don"t visit as often as I used to; are we still blaming Joe for everything?) Quote Stuff and things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 Brother Skinny! Good to see you⦠â¦and re: Joe - yes, of course. As you guys have seen from the Global sticky, the move is on. Details to follow shortly. dB Quote ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 As you guys have seen from the Global sticky, the move is on. Just remember I'm responsible for that as well. Quote "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuruPrionz Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Brother Skinny! Good to see you⦠â¦and re: Joe - yes, of course. As you guys have seen from the Global sticky, the move is on. Details to follow shortly. dB Me so very happy now!!!! Quote It took a chunk of my life to get here and I am still not sure where "here" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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