Tobias Åslund Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 So - MusikMesse 2016 starts in one week, but still little talk of rumors, whishes and new products here. So far the only "confirmed" rumor I've read is that DLQ will ship the KeyB Legend in april, and will show the finished product at the Messe. But other than that... silence! Too much stuff, too little time, too few gigs, should spend more time practicing...! 🙄 main instruments: Nord Stage 3 compact, Yamaha CP88, Kurzweil PC4, Viscount KeyB Legend Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickd Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 A rumoured Roland sampler gets a mention on Reddit. Not sure if there's any basis for the rumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bachus Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 A rumoured Roland sampler gets a mention on Reddit. Not sure if there's any basis for the rumour. Thats the rumored Drumsampler with ACB technollogy.. which is rumored.. personally, i think Roland will show up with a replacement for their Jupiter 80, indeed combining PCM sampling, super naturall and ACB technollogy... And then there is also something called SHARP... being SuperHumanizedARP's, might as well be part of this... Hoping Roland takes live sets another step further.. Korg Kronos 88, Yamaha Tyros5 (76), Integra 7, macbook pro/mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bachus Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Back on topic, Messe Rumors.. So far it has been awfully quiet.. There might be a new high end Wersi Instrument at the MusikStore.de stand. Its name has recently been anounced as Pergamon. Current Wersi instruments are fully VST based, and cost a ton.. None of their OAX instruments can be see as portable... Korg Kronos 88, Yamaha Tyros5 (76), Integra 7, macbook pro/mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Åslund Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 None of their OAX instruments can be see as portable... Well, depends what you mean by portable. 18 kg/38 lbs is fairly portable to me: http://wersimusic.com/newproducts/pegasus-wing/ Too much stuff, too little time, too few gigs, should spend more time practicing...! 🙄 main instruments: Nord Stage 3 compact, Yamaha CP88, Kurzweil PC4, Viscount KeyB Legend Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Åslund Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 Anyway - I think it's time for Nord to release the Stage 3, but still no teasers on their web page, so it might not be released at this trade show either... Too much stuff, too little time, too few gigs, should spend more time practicing...! 🙄 main instruments: Nord Stage 3 compact, Yamaha CP88, Kurzweil PC4, Viscount KeyB Legend Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bachus Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 None of their OAX instruments can be see as portable... Well, depends what you mean by portable. 18 kg/38 lbs is fairly portable to me: http://wersimusic.com/newproducts/pegasus-wing/ The wing is not an OaX instrument... oax is the new operation system of the Sonic (which comes in 5 flavors so far, all heavy cabinet organs) The Wing is based of the old OaS, in that they cut the high end features from oas and put it into an arranger keyboard format.. Korg Kronos 88, Yamaha Tyros5 (76), Integra 7, macbook pro/mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bachus Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Anyway - I think it's time for Nord to release the Stage 3, but still no teasers on their web page, so it might not be released at this trade show either... Atleast 2 more years, the Stage 2EX was only released last year... Tough, i would love to see a Stage 3 indeed... With the huge flash of teh Kurzweil series All the organs of the C2D, including real drawbars The synth of the lead 4 A bigger screen Better daw integration.. Korg Kronos 88, Yamaha Tyros5 (76), Integra 7, macbook pro/mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Hammond XK-4 - updated CV and internal rotary sim, sample sets from the SK line. Yamaha S90M - based on the Montage. No super knob - just the new super big AWM2 libraries and the FM-X synth in either a familiar UI or simpler one at a gigger's price point. Nord Stage 2 EX D - with draw bars. Nord Electro 6D with a synth engine - would be great, but not likely since it would hurt their Stage sales, but maybe not as many don't buy the Stage anyway because they are priced out. Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpPiano Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I wonder what this could be? Dave Smith meets Pioneer DJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Åslund Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 18 kg/38 lbs is fairly portable to me: http://wersimusic.com/newproducts/pegasus-wing/ The wing is not an OaX instrument... oax is the new operation system of the Sonic (which comes in 5 flavors so far, all heavy cabinet organs) The Wing is based of the old OaS, in that they cut the high end features from oas and put it into an arranger keyboard format.. Oh, sorry - my bad! I thought OaX was a typo... Too much stuff, too little time, too few gigs, should spend more time practicing...! 🙄 main instruments: Nord Stage 3 compact, Yamaha CP88, Kurzweil PC4, Viscount KeyB Legend Live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWhllr Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Given I've recently bought a C2D, poor fortune must mean that a C3D is on the way... Viscount Legend, Leslie 142, Nord Stage 3 HA88, Rhodes MK1 1977, Moog Sub 37, Dave Smith Rev2, Juno 106, DX7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lophiomys Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Hopefully a C2D-HX3 instead of just a C3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bachus Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Hammond XK-4 - updated CV and internal rotary sim, sample sets from the SK line. Yamaha S90M - based on the Montage. No super knob - just the new super big AWM2 libraries and the FM-X synth in either a familiar UI or simpler one at a gigger's price point. Nord Stage 2 EX D - with draw bars. Nord Electro 6D with a synth engine - would be great, but not likely since it would hurt their Stage sales, but maybe not as many don't buy the Stage anyway because they are priced out. Thats a wishlist? Ketron (Italian organ/arranger-keyboard/dp/accordion-modules previously named Solton) will be showing off something new and spectaculair according to their american representatif AJ on the Synthzone forums... Korg Kronos 88, Yamaha Tyros5 (76), Integra 7, macbook pro/mainstage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronks Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Quessing: Gemini sound module rack and desktop versions. Don't take me serious, I'm just playing. ------------------------------------------------------------ Gear: Hammond XK5-system, Nord Stage3 Compact, Crumar Seven, Rhodes Mk2; Hammond M44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John64 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 With a few wish lists floating around yet very few hints or leaks either the companies keep a very tight lid on the news or it's going to be very uneventful. Roland was rather quiet at NAMM, so they are bound to have a few interesting things incl. that sampling workstation. Since the Messe is a European event I would not surprised to see a few new arrangers. Maybe also new controllers from Nektar, Akai, Kawai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJUSCULE Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 [OT] I went to a Monty Python & the Holy Grail quote-a-long screening this weekend. I saw this thread title and read "Meese" and started thinking about vacationing in Sweden this summer. [/OT] Eric Website Gear page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawai James Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I wonder what this could be? Dave Smith meets Pioneer DJ Look like the article was pulled...wonder what it was. As for Kawai, the company recently announced the CS-X1 collaboration prototype, developed in partnership with Onkyo: http://www.kawai-global.com/news/kawai-onkyo-cs-x1-musikmesse-2016/ Cheers, James x Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Holy crap, James. Like has Kawai been reading the pianoforums.com or what? You mean a home DP maker is going to upgrade their amp and speaker systems? Hell just froze over. "At the heart of the CS-X1 collaboration prototype is the spectacular sound of the Shigeru Kawai SK-EX concert grand piano, captured with full 88-key sampling and reproduced using Harmonic Imaging XL piano sound engine. Advanced 1-bit signal processing and premium dual DAC components ensure precise analogue conversion, with Onykos unique DIDRC technology and optimised power amplifiers delivering greater energy, richness, and clarity. This high fidelity Shigeru Kawai sound is channelled onto two real wooden soundboards, allowing the CS-X1 to reproduce the natural warmth and organic richness of an acoustic piano, while a built-in multi-channel Onkyo amplifier and 8-channel external speaker configuration immerses the pianist in a unique virtual concert hall experience." Can't wait to hear it in person. Expensive as heck I am sure... how much are we talking about to have these sample sets playing back on a 8 channel system? Were these samples recorded with 8 mics/mixed for playback on 8 speakers? Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephonic Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Yamaha S90M - based on the Montage. No super knob - just the new super big AWM2 libraries and the FM-X synth in either a familiar UI or simpler one at a gigger's price point. I would have thought Yamaha would call the S90XS' successor S100? the S90 was the S80's successor, and adopted the ES and XS as it was updated in tandem with its Motif counterpart. Also, I doubt they'd announce it at the Messe, the Montage is not even available yet. My best guess would be NAMM 2017. local: Korg Nautilus 73 | Yamaha MODX8 away: GigPerformer home: Kawai RX-2 | Korg D1 | Roland Fantom X7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawai James Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Can't wait to hear it in person. Will you be attending the show Elmer? Cheers, James x Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Yamaha S90M - based on the Montage. No super knob - just the new super big AWM2 libraries and the FM-X synth in either a familiar UI or simpler one at a gigger's price point. I would have thought Yamaha would call the S90XS' successor S100? the S90 was the S80's successor, and adopted the ES and XS as it was updated in tandem with its Motif counterpart. Also, I doubt they'd announce it at the Messe, the Montage is not even available yet. My best guess would be NAMM 2017. Agreed, so what do you think, Zephonic?. It would be S100M maybe?. Since the S90 had an ES and XS version but no XF. Which they used on an MOXF instead. Maybe the M for its relation to Montage? I doubt it would come for a season or two till Montage sales slowed. Although, if this forum is an indicator - which it's hard to say, we're generally on the older side of 30 here. It seems the Montage is a dud. Just wishlist. Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Can't wait to hear it in person. Will you be attending the show Elmer? Cheers, James x I wish James, will you be going? Do the shows fall under your duties at Kawai? Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulceLabs.com Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Expensive as heck I am sure... What 'cha think? 10k? 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawai James Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I wish James, will you be going? Do the shows fall under your duties at Kawai? Normally, no, as my work is largely unrelated to sales. However, I have some involvement with the CS-X1 presentation (among other things), so will indeed be attending this year! Cheers, James x Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawai James Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Expensive as heck I am sure... What 'cha think? 10k? 12? The CS-X1 is a technology prototype to demonstrate the collaboration between Kawai and Onkyo. While I'm confident that some of the technologies developed will appear in future products, the CS-X1 itself will not be sold. Cheers, James x ps. Your Simpsons avatar is hilarious. Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I wish James, will you be going? Do the shows fall under your duties at Kawai? Normally, no, as my work does is unrelated to sales. However, I have some involvement with the CS-X1 presentation (among other things), so will indeed be attending this year! Cheers, James x Congratulations on this opportunity, James. I hope you are looking forward to the experience, and I wish you safe travels. It really is a very long flight to Germany... to Anaheim, CA as well for that matter. Anyway, get out and try some German beer and food if you can. Enjoy! Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawai James Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Thank you Elmer! Now, we shall return you to your regular programme... Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own. Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulceLabs.com Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Expensive as heck I am sure... What 'cha think? 10k? 12? The CS-X1 is a technology prototype to demonstrate the collaboration between Kawai and Onkyo. While I'm confident that some of the technologies developed will appear in future products, the CS-X1 itself will not be sold. Cheers, James x ps. Your Simpsons avatar is hilarious. Won't be sold? Oh - so you are *giving* it away!! First come, first serve, right? PM'd you my shipping address! ps. My avatar *would* be funny if it didn't so accurately tell the story of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lophiomys Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 When I connect my onkyo amplifier to my MP7 I can do that collaboration right now. It wouldn't be rocket science just to fit good HiFi components into any digital piano. That could just be done for a small extra. I am very interested if the HiFi sound amplification and speakers will improve on the sampled piano sound. The tests I have made in 2014 with my MP7 connected to Abacus A-Box 10 and Onkyo A-9555 + vintage Grundig Box M800 did not convice me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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