Squ Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 So hey guys! Long time no see. I've been very busy with work/the band/crap. For this topic I don't want any "tone is in the hands" answers, or "you should be yourself" responses, because: 1) I agree tone is in the hands and I do woodshedding and practicing and all that stuff, and 2) the goal here is to sound like Hendrix. My band scored an awesome gig which I've always wanted to get, which is playing a Halloween show as The Jimi Hendrix experience. Thus: I want to sound like Jimi Hendrix, and I'd like your expert advice on what I should do with the gear I have, and how I should use it. I have:Fender Strat50 watt Marshall DSLBig Muff PiFuzz FaceTube Screamer 808Crybaby wah Besides gear, I will take technique advice. In particular, I was never sure how to switch between the pick ups of a strat, and I was never very good at getting a good sounding hi-gain lead with single coils. I know that for the ballads, I should use the "in-between" settings, but for everything else I've been defaulting to the neck pick up. Advice? And before you ask, here's the (tentative) song list:Killing FloorFireWait Until TomorrowCrosstown Traffic The Wind Cries MaryFoxey LadyVoodoo Child (Slight Return)Hey JoeLittle WingBold As LoveRed HouseWild Thing Wurd. Red Red Rockit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 stratMarshall (loud)OctaviaUnivibeFuzzfaceWah That's it. Sound simple, doesn't it? Good luck....keep us posted as to how it works out. And, audio clips are required!! Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squ Posted September 2, 2007 Author Share Posted September 2, 2007 hah, well I don't have the Octavia or the univibe. I do have the boss rotary ensemble, if we play a song that would benefit from it. So do you recommend having just one loud channel on and using the volume knob for dynamics? Elwood, I'd like to hear your suggestions on what channel/mode of the amp I shoud use, and how much gain/volume, since we have the same amp. I don't know if there will be any recordings but maybe I can work something out. Red Red Rockit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stamplicker Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 1968 Rig setup MagicStomp Soundbites Soundclick Rambles Haunted Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 1968 Rig setup Alright Stamp!! And, it would appear that Jimi used the fancier Univibe with the "expression pedal". http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dunlop-UniVibe-Effect-Pedal?sku=151092 http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dunlop-Univibe-Control-Pedal?sku=151093 Cool Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Hiya Squ!! good to see ya again!! OK first of all you are gointg to be on your neck pickup almost ALL THE TIME!!! and when you go to your wah...STAY on the neck pickup also. WE run the same amp SO.....this is how I run mine, on the clean channel, I run that channel wide open! so it's Strat to KLON..to peddleboard to amp..NO effects look ..hit it straight in! Do all your gain adjusting using the volume on your front pu. What I dont know is what you are going to use in place of the clean boost? but in almost every tune there stay on the neck PU. Nothing you can get out of the classic gain channel on that amp will sound as authentic as using the clean channel OPEN. http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 MORE: did you know KLON is right there in Boston with you? OH and congrats on the gig!! what a great theme for a gig!!!!! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 so, el....you don't throw on any univibe effect for Jimi stuff?? Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 OK...this is not a Hendrix thing but listen to our Marshall with the Klon to the peddle board and the clean channel running open from the guitar... http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=372411&songID=5612720 this is 19 mins long done at a outside thing.... http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 so, el....you don't throw on any univibe effect for Jimi stuff?? OH sure Doc...it's on the board..I said Klon then board http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 what do you use for the univibe stuff? Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Don't say your keyboard player's Leslie!! LOL Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 what do you use for the univibe stuff? The Sweet Electronics UltraVibe http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Don't say your keyboard player's Leslie!! LOL Yep two of them in fact! http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 You go thru them?? Or, does your Key's guy hog them all to himself?? Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 It's all pointless unless you tie a scarf around your head. Mind you, the scarf has to be at least 40% rayon. The static caused by friction on the scarf as you shake your head up and down creates a subtle but perceptible energy field which interacts with the pedals and adds a second layer of distortion. It's all in the headscarf, I'm tellin' ya. Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 You go thru them?? Or, does your Key's guy hog them all to himself?? LOL!! no he hogs them!! the UltraVibe does a good job though. http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Squ...listen to that track at about 8:20 to the end...that is the setup for Hendrix/Beck http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sauce Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 You gotta use the rotary for "Little Wing" and "Bold as Love" at the very least. I wouldn't use the Muff for Hendrix, the fuzz face'll be all the fuzz you need. Doc nailed the signal chain pretty well although you might want to stick the tube screamer in there for more dirt options, to get the bluesy overdrive sound and whatnot (he was known for his fuzz sound but he did plenty without it as well). And play around with the chain a little until you're happy with the sound, I know how he set it up and blah blah but personally I've always liked my wah before dirt. And just listen to a bunch of live Hendrix to get the feel for some of those signature licks and sounds he does. Definitely pull out some high-feedback, whammy squeals too. Oh and can you play with your teeth p.s. Where's the gig? Then you'll never hear surf music again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squ Posted September 3, 2007 Author Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'll be using this pedal for any univibe sounds: http://www.bossus.com/ProductImages/rt20_sm.jpg I'm not looking into buying too many more pedals, but I think I'll use this as an excuse to get a Vox wah. But do you use the klon for just volume's sake? Lee, the "clean" channel has two settings, super clean and not that clean, which one do you use? And Kramer, I'm trying to find a pink boa somewhere. I'm going for 1967 Monterey Pop Hendrix: http://hendrix.free.fr/images/jimi424.jpg Red Red Rockit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Squ..SuperCLEAN, the Klon drives the power tubes into breakup and sweet harmonics, the Klon drives every thing on the peddle board. So what you have essentially is a one channel Marshall with the Klon doing the preamp work, the cabinet is greenbacks. http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumblyfingers Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I'm going for 1967 Monterey Pop Hendrix Well then, you'll need some lighter fluid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuben Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Aqu, You beat me to the Boa. Kramer nailed the do rag. A little Hendricks trick. He use to leave the Wah on and set on the treble side, Doc And Ellwood have covered the important stuff. Loud. Front pickup on the Strat. He rarely played any other pickup. Cool Gig! Kick butt! Peace http://www.spotcheckbilly.com http://www.littlefeat.net http://www.bonnieraitt.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Patrick Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 It depends on how close you want to get. If you are intent in nailing his tones exactly, you'll need a 4-input Marshall, a Vox wah, and a Fuzz Face with germanium NKT-275 transistors. But your situation may not require an anal retentive's attention to detail... I've never messed with a DSL, but you ought to be able to get a decent, warm breakup on it to mimic the sound of a 4-input rig. Add the Fuzz Face on top of it as necessary. Keep in mind that Jimi left his Fuzz Face on most of the time and controlled the amount of distortion with the volume knob on his guitar. Other than that, just practice the tunes and try to cop his feel as much as you can. Buy Tangy's latest CD, "Sorta Like Very Ultra" The Official Tangy Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Patrick Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 And I guess this would be an occasion to open myself up to ridicule by posting this promo pic of a band I was in many years ago... http://www.juhnke.com/mike/thirdstone.jpg Buy Tangy's latest CD, "Sorta Like Very Ultra" The Official Tangy Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 That's cool. Pity that it's not in colour, you really need colour to be all proper psychedelic, like. Are you "doing" an Experience photo, or is it just a photo of you guys? Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Patrick Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 It was a Hendrix tribute band I was in. We had four sets of Hendrix material together, all the big hits plus lots of deep album cuts. It was a great band, everyone was totally fearless as far as allowing improvisations to boldly go where we had never gone before... Buy Tangy's latest CD, "Sorta Like Very Ultra" The Official Tangy Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Ferrington III. Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Sure, yeah But what I meant was "Were you recreating an Experience photograph" It sort of looks posed in a 60s kind of way. Band MySpace My snazzy t-shirt empire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Patrick Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Oh, I got ya. No, if it resembles a JHE pic it is totally by accident. We were just trying to get a promo picture we could use to get gigs... Buy Tangy's latest CD, "Sorta Like Very Ultra" The Official Tangy Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squ Posted September 3, 2007 Author Share Posted September 3, 2007 Yeah, I just want to do the best I can with the gear I've got. Though I think I will get the Vox wah because I've wanted it for a while, and my Cry Baby is inherited and a little busted. But I don't need to be anal, I'm not playing at a Jimi Hendrix convention. The other bands that night are playing as Ziggy Stardust, Poison and Def Leppard. I'm unsure of how many arms the drummer will be using for Def Leppard. Red Red Rockit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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