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I looked at Sweetwater and found all 3 models of Forte on back order. The 7 says they"ll have it in a couple weeks. The 88 and th SE says extra delivery time. Are you saying they won"t even take orders for them?

You are remembering correctly. I still have an old Peavey with a spring reverb unit built in. I have it set up in a rehearsal space where I never have to move it but a friend often borrows it for his uke! It sounds fine and I really appreciate the 4 band parametric that"s really makes it solid in any room. The only time it fails is when the band is playing really loud and I"m wondering why I can"t cut through and I look over and see that little yellow light flashing with everything I play.

I agree with this a lot. I think I said earlier that the response is voodoo magic. To me that means what is magical and perfect for me is barely playable and garbage to someone else. The Rolands have always been my least favorite, maybe because it was my first and it was cheap and I hated it. I cannot deny however that when I hear Reese Wynans or Jon Cleary playing one it sounds amazing. When the SV1 first came out I thought it looked gimmicky and inconvenient. It wasn't until I played one that I fell in love with it. I try not to make up my mind based on a Youtube demo. In my experience there is always more to it than that.

This is actually why I think it"s valid for the Grandstage and SV2 to both be available and so close in price. At least in my view the piano players would probably only be interested in the Grandstage, assuming you like those piano sounds at all. For me the SV is all about Rhodes and Wurly with the added bonus that the piano sounds don"t suck. Subjective opinion of course. I know some players think they suck. The Clav sounds in my SV1 are ok, but I can"t get into them with that action. Even using it as a controller for better Clav sounds, it just doesn"t work for me.

Not much of an update. .... For me the real question is how have they updates the EPs, and have they managed not to break them in the process?. My thoughts exactly.

I definitely want to try the speakers but I doubt I'll dig them more than my headphones for personal practice and such. I also despise white keyboards. I'm curious if they're going to eventually offer limited color options with red and black keys like they did with the SV1.

I don't know but I can't imagine it'd be that limited because it's not like the Electro with 2 or 3 seperate engines where each engine is basically monotimbral. My guess is you could do whatever you want but not on the fly. I don't see the controls for creating splits/layers on the fly, only adjusting levels of the individual parts. I think you'd need to have everything created ahead of time using the software editor or go for the Grandstage.

Always interesting to hear everyone's thoughts on the SV1. I still have mine that I bought new in 2016 and I love it to death though it is no longer my main SP. Regarding cutting through, I initially thought I would have to send mine back because on stage with my 60's rock band I couldn't even hear it. I even emailed Adam Holzman for advice. Turns out the output is just so low to allow for more gain from the tube preamp. After cranking it up to slam my monitor it was almost too loud and powerful, even next to the guitarists Marshall stack. Response is magic voodoo AFAIC, and every time I play the Rhodes or Wurly it's magic. My first keyboard was a 200a. The AP is fine, nothing special. Really want to try this SV2 out.

It'd be a bit more expensive but you could buy the Spider Pro and an extra horizontal tier arm set. Very simple to swap one out for the other. I made mine in to a 3 tier stand and i used the angled tier for the top synth.

I have the Omega Pro(folding) and I believe to fit the 2nd tier pieces in a narrow bag they might have to be disassembled more than I"d be willing to. How narrow is this bag? The feet will slide out of their sleeves completely, making them essentially a giant T-bar that wouldn"t fit into any bag that I would describe as narrow.

Thanks for the explanation! My current 2-tier stand set up for sitting is about 35" tall. The 18880 is 15.7" (40cm), so collapsed that'd be about 35" x 15.7" x 3". For comparison my 88-key board (PX 560) is 52"x11.5"x5.8". In my car, I usually put one back seat down and slide the keyboard (in gig bag) onto the back seat from the trunk. I could try just laying an 18880 on top of that, but the extra 4.5" inches looks it might make it too wide to fit through that one-back-seat hole any more. But those dimensions aren't bad at all, it'd probably fit entirely in the trunk, or across the back seats--there should be plenty of options. I'm more confused about the 18820. The legs fold up, but then you're still left with any stackers sticking up above it, right? Seems like it'd take up a lot of space at that point, so whether it's practical would depend on how convenient it is to remove the stackers every time. It's hard to explain. I leave the pieces that the tiers fit in to attached to the stand.On the back is a set screw type deal with a large handle. Turn to loosen pull the tier out and stash the tiers in a backpack I have with me anyway. The part of the tier that is still attached still protrudes upward from the stand roughly 6 inches or so. With the stackers mounted it's even taller and heavier. My main reason for taking the tiers out is the weight and awkwardness while carrying. Setup is a minute the way I do it. Doesn't bother me at all. Seems perfectly reasonable to me but everybody seems to want setup in less than 20 seconds. I've honestly never needed to setup that fast.

That does sound good. I mostly just got the plugkey because I didn"t need the midi out. The attached lightning plug is too short and a PITA. The Alesis is cheaper too.

I thought the KApro orchestral dreams add on for Korg Module was very nice.

I understand now. FYI I bought the Omega Pro but not the second tier and just attached the second tier from my Omega non folding. They are perfectly compatible.

I feel your pain. I've been to hell and back with this, everything you've described. The Omega Pro does not fit nicely in my car but it does fit which is good enough for me for now. I leave the second tier attachments on but I take the actual tiers off and carry them separate in a backpack. Not the fastest setup or tear down but manageable for me. The Omega stands are my last ditch effort before ordering a bunch of Gibraltar tubes and parts and doing the design bit myself.

What are you looking for in flexibility?

I"ve never used the 18950 but I have zero wobble to report on either the 18810 or 18820. I"m not using the heaviest boards. Forte 7 is 42 lbs. XK1C is 16 lbs. I have the laptop extension with two effect pedals attached with Velcro and the other accessory attachment I"m using for an iPad. I"ve never been to picky about wobble though. The spider pro was a wobble fest which didn"t bother me.

I've played a couple dozen gigs with my new foldable Omega stand and love it. I used the non folding version for over a year and liked it but was a pain to pack into my car. Before that I used the Spider Pro for 3 years and finally determined it's not quite solid enough for hammer action DPs of any weight if you play with any force at all. The new folding Omega comes with a shoulder strap which seemed like a great idea but it failed the second time I used it and my new stand hit the sidewalk hard. No damage. It is very heavy and very solid.I just put the second tier from my older Omega on the new one. They are the same dimensions and totally compatible.

There are some interesting and difficult to hear keys in the original studio version. I play in a Fleetwood tribute band and I just play like the live version because it contributes more to the bands overall sound. I never figured out exactly what was happening on the studio version anyway.

+1 Korg Plug Key. Cheap and easy.

So 99 pages. Thanks I hadn"t checked the chart before. That"s plenty for me and lots of players but their are definitely players who would need way more. The pc3 has way more so I find it curious that the pc4 would inherit the forte"s limitation to 99 since it is a pc and all. Congrats!

So Toano88, yes their are more favorites except it"s called quick access via the view soft button. 10 at a time. I don"t know how many quick access pages are available but the manual just says scroll to the next page if you need more so I think it"s safe to say as many as you need.

Thank you. I would have found it sooner but my 11 month old needs so much darn attention.

I just started looking at the manual. In program mode the furthest right soft button is called view and the manual says to use this to toggle between default large view, list view and quick access view. So far I have not found any other mention of quick access view.

My Forte 7 has 50 favorites banks with 10 sounds each that you scroll through using the channel/zone buttons next to the screen. scrolling to the next page does not change the sound that you are currently playing so it's functionally the same as quick access mode on my pc3le6 but better becuse the favorites buttons are in the middle of the control panel just under the screen. When I imported all of my user objects from pc3 to the forte i got 19 additional favorites banks corresponding to the 19 quick access banks i used in my pc3le6. User mode must be changed to advanced in the global menu or you just get 10 favorites plus whatever you assign to the category buttons. There is no way they've abandoned both favorites and quick access on the pc4 is there?