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Does this mean we will see a new montage X at Namm 2019? I would love to see a VA, VL and waveform engine added to the next Montage.. And hopefully the return of something to play backins... And offcourse the dreaded 9th slider.. and a bigger screen... And a lighter 88 key version.. with the same keybed quallity as the orriginal(or better)

That clavinet deserves an overhaul, some tlc can make it shine again.

VSTs don't give you the same kind of hands-on control as this dedicated control surface does. VSTs require a computer, this doesn't. What would this set of 8Dio samples cost in the VST realm? Could you do the same kind of sound mangling as easily, in real-time? And switch among the sounds as quickly? There are a whole bunch of differences even before you get to the analog filters. I ought to agree with this... But with the new hardware integrion seen with omnisphere 2.5 This might actually change.. i can see software getting the same interface as hardware(becaus ethe hardware is actually the interface) What if i added some keyscape stuff and some oscilators in omsiphere And controll it with a novation peak or Roland system 8.. The only difference would in fact be the analogue filter.. Leaves again the question.. How much difference is there between omspheres plethora in filters and the prophet x filter in soundquallity?

In the end... the only difference between this sound engine and the many high quallity VSTs is the analogue filte... So how much better is this analogue filter then the computer programmed ones? And if so, is that worth 4000?

In one of the videos they admit to using sample streaming... Which as you say is the most logical thing to accept..

One thing is certain. 8dio knows how to sell this to me [video:youtube]lVv2rmWkEVs Wondering tough, if it will be possible to use a knob to cycle trough the variations of a sound, and another one to cycle microphone positions.. and if not, maybe they can add this trough the menu.. Also missing the wavetables that where in the P12.. To bad you cant have 4 samples, or 4 oscilators in a sound But i can see how this is due to technical limitations. Another thing missing so far seems the sound character parameters of the P12 Which was done digitally, so it could be part of the menu.. Nevertheless, i am quite excited... Comming from a Korgy, but seems the prologue cant even come close to this sound.

Actually my Kronos 88 makes the perfect mainstage comtroller Allows me to have both in a single setup.. Choosing the EXT section in my controlls gives me everything a mainstage comtroller would ever need.. I dont undertand why to either go software or hardware.. software makes the perfect expansion for hardware... Oh and this 39 program is the main reason for me to spend 3500 on a mac instead of 1500 on a windows laptop..

The answer is hybrid... keep the good things from both analogue and digital and unite them

The new piano model and the vibraphone model are not on my Gemini rack. I like the tempo at which GSI is improving and developing new vitual models. And they are not the only italian company thats very innovative, if GSI would cooperate with a company like Ketron and unite their strengths my dream instrument would be close to being born.

I would wait till after Namm when replacing a px5s

I'd really be surprised. Casio never offered a lofty-priced, high-end arranger in the past. Actually the Casio mzx-500 is one of the most innovative arrangers on the market... Sadly the sound quallity espescially from the orchestral sounds is very dissapointing.. In yhe end it just sounds like a real casio.. The most innovative feature on the whole arranger market is from Ketron In their high end SD9 they have a feature called launchpad. Thats a crossbreed between an Arranger and Ableton live And there is more, its supporting both midi as wel as audio(loops) If they ever release a module version of the sd9 pro, i will add it to the Kronos and never look back.. The most innovative part of the Genos is still the ensemble voices which are unique in all hardware instruments... but that was allready part of the T5. Compared to the current arranger market leader Korg pa4x, the Genos is still aimed to much at home players and misses a lot of the Pa4xs pro features...

I once owned a Farfisa F1.. Worst money spend...

Has anyome tried ViP from Akai.. It looks to be a very versatile host for live use.. But what comtroller(non keys) to use.. Having 2 keyboards on stage is more then enough But this looks to be a much easier way to create vst performances then mainstage.. So what comtrollers have you tried ViP with?

I,think they allready marketed the tyros 5 as an arranger workstation. Actually i am quite sure of that. However, with the removing of the workstation features from the Montage, there was room for moving the Genos further to the workstation title. However, they forgot to add some of the main workstation features in that process. - no daw integration at all. - no real onboard sound edditing features, only a few basic parameters - they also didnt pick up the things that where lost with the upgrade from the motif to the montage, like the pattern sequencer. While other wokstation features like te arpegiator cant even compete with the entry level MX synth series. To be honest, the title workstation is just marketing, the Genos isnt one bit more workstation then your Tyros 4.

If people would only watch the Martin Harris Kraft Genos demo, they would know what it takes to get a great sound out of an arranger.. I think the yamaha divisi ensemble voices are one of the harder things to master for many keyboardplayers.. Also areangers are a very nice tool for mimmicking real acoustic instruments.. but each of those instrumentsrequires both knowledge of the orriginal instrument, as well as its very own authentic playing style to sound realistic.. If you play any of the flutes, guitars, brass or saxaphone sounds like you would play a piano or organ. You would get nowhere near a realistic sound. Playing an arranger is just as specific as playing a synth, a piano or an organ. they all have their own playstyle.

Hi Grey -- Short story: Genos is targeted for one market segment and the Montage is targeted for another. Montage is what Yamaha thinks is a synthesizer and Genos is targeted for stage performers, one man bands, in particular. Home players have adopted the Genos because it is a high-end extension of the arranger workstation line. They share a lot of technical DNA including samples and some voices. Features like voice editing, sequencing and so forth are segment-specific (in Yamaha's view). Quality is high at the top of both product lines. Choice of Montage vs. Genos comes down to musical goals. What does a player need for performance? The studio? ... Hope this short answer helps -- pj Actually the problem is the one-be-all yamaha keyboard.. They refuse to make it.. The one-be-all Yamaha keyboard would have everything the Genos, Montage and their latest CLP pianos have. and then some more synth engines added. The hardware would support this. They have all software required to create this in their database Sadly they spread their technollogy thin over a few instruments. Or just save it up for the next version of their instruments. So why are these Genos instruments so expensive? Simple answer, because the intended buyers are prepared to shelve loads of money, just to enjoy their instrument. If they ever make the one-and-only- true -be-all-instrument and add 88 keys, wake me up, i would even be willing to spend 5000 on it or more.

Seems the FA07 comes with a significant software update also available for the other 2 models... yet cant find any exact update notes yet...