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USB is, I think, finally getting ready to achieve its "universal serial bus" goal: Optimistically, I hope USB4, which includes Thunderbolt 3 technology donated to the standard by Apple and Intel, will actually be the standard to dominate the market and create some stability and sanity. It offers the USB-C connector, standards for power delivery, Thunderbolt data rates, overall cheapness and lack of licensing fees. Why is it taking so long for interface and other companies to implement? They say no one needs more channels than can be provided by the speeds of USB2, but that's not the reason I want to upgrade. I want one future-proofed wired connector for my devices and instruments, USB-C, hopefully using the TB protocol. Have them support MIDI 2.0 while they're at it! . I'd also like the smaller devices to be able to be powered by and provide power via USB-- a 4 pre desktop interface ought to be able to be bus powered by my MacBook. I'm in my 50's, and in general I wish the pace of technological change in the audio world was far, far faster. Watching USB and Thunderbolt in the audio world has been frustrating enough, but digitally networked audio is the one that really frustrates me. Dante, AVB, Ravenna, Milan, AES67, arghh. This is VHS vs. Betamax, but going on for decades. Networked audio can't take over the home studio market fast enough, imo. IP-based technology that comes to the corporate, computer and home office/consumer spaces cheaply and quickly takes a decade longer to ease its way into audio, and then it's firewalled in the pro audio/pro studio/broadcast market segment. The market size of the audio manufacturers is so small that the pace of change is glacial. Manufacturers have very long product development and replacement lifecycles, and it seems that when new chips come out that it takes two product update cycles for that new technology to become integrated. Audio companies take years to implement wifi and bluetooth chips into their products that cost a dollar or two and are put into light bulbs costing $10.

I saw this comparison. They recommend the Steelcase, have some cheaper options also: https://www.techgearlab.com/topics/small-and-home-office/best-office-chair

The M1 Ultra chip was fairly well rumored last year, and pegged exactly back in December. Those same early rumors show a 4 x M1 Max die chip, which is assumedly what will go into the next Mac Pro update. Other Mac Twitter people have shown the patents for two of the new chips placed side-by-side in a single package, and also for 3D stacking in the future. Jade C-Chop is the M1 Pro, C-Die is the M1 Max, Jade 2C-Die is the new M1 Ultra... Today's rumors are that a more powerful 27" iMac will still be revealed later this year or early next. https://twitter.com/siracusa/status/1501279165298970627

The tech people I follow are surprised that Apple seems to be the first company to allow separate chiplets to present multiple CPUs and GPUs to the apps as a single processor. Indie filmmakers and other video creative types must be thrilled.

Impressive machines, without a doubt. The Studio Displays look really nice, but probably still more than I'd want to pay. What's interesting is that they said that the Mac Pro was still to be updated to Mac silicon; I hope that doesn't mean that a 27" iMac replacement isn't coming as well. With all I read about the M1 Pro being enough chip for most audio users, I'm thinking an M2-based Mac Mini next year might be the way to go, if it offered the Pro chip. Nice to see Logic featured in the demos; some day it will surely show up on the iPad, right???

I've never had to expand the number of mic pres beyond one interface, but doesn't the core MacOS allow for adding more inputs on its own by creating an aggregate audio interface from two separate ones? https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202000 https://ask.audio/articles/how-why-to-create-aggregate-audio-devices-in-macos-audio-midi-setup I might be missing something about syncing, but the easiest solution just seems to buy another interface with the number of preamps you need (maybe a Clarett+ 8Pre or a Scarlett 18i20 to keep the preamps similar in sound?), and make an aggregate device out of them. The Apple support article does mention ways of setting one device as the master clock, using word clock between them, or even using Drift Correction if word clock isn't supported. ADAT seems to be a last-generation technology, and having two separate interfaces seems more useful than having an OctoPre and and an 8Pre.

On-Stage's update to their short stand now includes a locking pin: https://on-stage.com/products/view/14257

I purchased the iPad original version of NS Keys Studio. I reached out to them to see why it stopped working after v2, came out, and was very turned off by the brusque attitude. Will pass on GM products from now on.

Robby Burns briefly compares Dorico on iPad to StaffPad in his review here: http://www.robbyburns.com/blog/dorico-for-ipad-first-impressions

And today an iPad version of Sibelius! Interesting times. https://www.scoringnotes.com/reviews/sibelius-arrives-on-ipad/ Different pricing modelâ if you pay to subscribe to the desktop software, you get that level of the iPad app for nothing extra.

Looks pretty good, and Daniel Spreadbury is very clear about their intent to maintain feature parity with Dorico 4 and the iOS version. https://blog.dorico.com/

I"m hoping Apple will announce its pro software is supported on the iPad at WWDC next week. I"m the meantime, can anyone familiar with both compare recent versions of Gig Performer and MainStage?

Not a direct answer to the question raised, but Modartt has confirmed that there will be an iOS version Pianoteq. No timeline on its release, but I suspect they wouldn't have said that much if it wasn't within a few months, or this year at least. I would expect Pianoteq on iOS to be the new leader for playability. I have Ravenscroft and won't buy another iOS piano before Pianoteq comes out.

I have three of the K&M ones, I think they're the best. Read the comments for questions re. which models to get for which iPad. https://www.k-m.de/brand/en/all-ipad-smartphone-and-tablet-holder/

The topic of Apple's iPad OS being underpowered for its iPad Pros is in the news today. Some are calling for full MacOS on iPads: https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/22/22396449/apple-ipad-pro-macbook-air-macos-2021 While leaks are starting to come out ahead of WWDC regarding the tweaks Apple will give iPad OS 15 in the fall: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-22/apple-plans-notifications-ipad-home-screen-upgrades-for-ios-15 As I said earlier, I think Apple will come out with iPad OS versions of its own apps and pro apps soon. It would appear to be two or three years (at least) until iPad OS 16 or 17 before the iPad takes significant steps toward being more Mac-like. edit: saw this article in today's Independent that also is about this issue: https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/ipad-pro-apple-interview-m1-explained-b1835934.html

Sure. I have the Magic Keyboard for my 2018 12.9" iPad Pro, and had a Brydge keyboard before that. But Apple isn't likely to put out Logic (or allow other developers' apps) for the iPad in a form that _requires_ a keyboard and mouse equivalent, just as for the longest time Apple wouldn't allow games for the AppleTV that required a third-party controller. I think Apple has been waiting for the iPad Pro to have enough memory to run Logic before releasing it for the iPad; hopefully now it will do so soon. Remember that Apple has already figured out a lot of the user interfaces issues for using Logic on the iPad, as the Logic Remote app has been out for a while.

Chuck- were you aware that the SWAM instruments can be purchased within GeoShred and be played from any controller, even utilizing MPE? I picked up the SWAM instruments for GeoShred when they were offered on sale a few months back.

That's a question better addressed by U-He. It's technically possible, as the new iPad Pros use the same processor as the Apple Silicon desktop Macs. But, iPads use a touchscreen interface and iOS, and the Macs use a keyboard and mouse and MacOS. Much of the underlying code is the same, so the process of supporting both MacOS and iOS going forward should be much easier than in the pre-Apple Silicon days. And with Apple allowing universal app purchasing, developers can sell you their software once and have you be able to download and use it on both iOS and MacOS. Apple has also created some developer software which helps in moving software from iOS to MacOS, but not the reverse so far as I know. https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/04/13/omniplan-4-highlights-complexity-of-apples-universal-purchase-feature Getting back to your question: either Apple would have to create a "desktop mode," allowing an iPad to act like an Mac when a keyboard and pointing device are connected, or U-He will have to develop a version of its synths that can run on iOS and be functional with a touchscreen interface. We will get some news from Apple on its software developments coming in the fall at WWDC on June 7th; U-He might be able to give you some info on its plans sooner. There was an article out today on MacWorld about just this issue with Apple's own Mac software not running on iPads: https://www.macworld.com/article/343907/ipad-pro-thunderbolt-micro-led-xdr-display-m1-apps-speed.html

Would drivers even be necessary for Thunderbolt 3? What does class-compliant mean these days with USB4 incorporating TB3? I can't imagine that you couldn't just plug in a USB or Thunderbolt audio interface into one of the new iPad Pros and have it "just work." And with 8GB/16GB RAM on the iPad Pros, surely a new version of Logic supporting touch on the iPad will be announced soon...?

Just watched the Apple Event. New iPad Pros have USB4 and Thunderbolt. Will be great for audio! edit: StaffPad was featured very briefly during the iPad Pro presentation (at 52:36 if you care to watch)...

Lady Gaia- Looks like a CP88? Which drawer slides did you end up using? Could they support something as heavy as a VPC-1 or MP-11SE (65-75 lbs)? Did you consider having a notch cut out of the shelf to allow your knees to sit closer to the key surface?

[align:left][/align]I follow @doricoofficial on Twitter. They retweeted the start of this thread from @GregClarkMusic this morning: â- Greg Clark (@GregClarkMusic): Lifetime Finale user. Started in 7th grade, somewhere around 2000-2001. I am *pretty good* at Finale. I've led PD sessions on Finale and SmartMusic. Attended seminars. Composed and arranged and created all kinds of things. In December, I bought @doricoofficial 3.5. Oh. My. Greg Clark (@GregClarkMusic): I'm still a little slow to the shortcuts, but I can't even tell you the difference. I finished a commission for a high school band this week in Finale. I had a somewhat tight timeframe, so I didn't want to learn new software and write at the same time. Greg Clark (@GregClarkMusic): So I finished the music and sent "rough draft" parts to the school, with the understanding that I would send a more polished version later on, after running it through Dorico. What did the farmer say when he walked past 3 holes in the ground? Well, well, well. Greg Clark (@GregClarkMusic): I exported the xml from Finale and plugged it in to Dorico and just... I just can't. The playback is SO BEAUTIFUL. The dynamics, the accelerandi, the PERCUSSION ACTUALLY SOUNDS RIGHT ON THE FIRST TRY Greg Clark (@GregClarkMusic): But then I looked at my score, customized instrumentation (3 Fl, Ob, 3 C, 2 AS, TS, BS, 3 tpt, 2 tbn, euph, tuba, 4 percussion), and decided it would be nice to clean up the score by finding how Dorico goes about condensing a large score. Greg Clark (@GregClarkMusic): 5 clicks. It took 5 clicks to take a score from having 25 lines to a perfectly condensed, easily read score. Stems flipped. Unisons and divisis and a2's all marked for the conductor. I just I can't. Greg Clark (@GregClarkMusic): Last thing: percussion writing is actually intuitive. For the first time. Ever. In Finale, I would set up 4 percussion parts, the have to CTRL+K, edit settings to map my percussion and pray to god that they all lived in the same midi map. Greg Clark (@GregClarkMusic): In Dorico, you just say, "I want a person with these 3 instruments in their hands", then put the parts into the score and by the time you get to their part all this can happen. No additional work on my part. Just... I want to cry. It's beautiful. https://twitter.com/GregClarkMusic/status/1360002410425552899/photo/1 Greg Clark (@GregClarkMusic): No, I am not a Steinberg employee. But my GOD if you use music notation software you owe it to yourself to see what all the fuss is about.

Pianoteq. Can you add it to the poll?

Have you considered having a look at the free trial of Dorico? The educational/academic crossgrade price discount is quite substantial. Dorico seems to be leading the pack these days.

Yes, I've seen that and I've been following MIDI 2.0 for a while. I was wondering if, as a software developer that has embraced OSC, you had any plans or ideas regarding implementing 2.0 in Gig Performer. Is it more limited compared to OSC? Does it have pros and cons vs. other protocols? Does it figure in your product development plans or is fairly irrelevant?