TomKittel

Great sound! Thumbs up for the Artis 7. I'm loving mine. If they only would update the Artis iPad editor at long last after 4 years (!). It still doesn't work under IOS11. In contrast the IOS editor for the lower level Artis SE is working, which I find weird

No warning. The Medeli still serves its purpose. Keybeds are very subjective. Maybe my expectations were to high. All I would suggest is try before you buy.

Dave, could you comment on the missing EQ for AP sounds? Any chance for a future OS update where EQ will be implemented to AP Sounds in a similar way as to Rhodes sounds? Any reason why EQ was omitted from AP sounds?

Should we call him Elon Behringer or Uli Musk? ;-))

I just read that the Dexibells need nearly one minute to boot up after Power On. This would be a deal breaker for me. For the very same reason I never considered a Kronos.

Look here: Looks like a pretty cool sound module.

Talking about a SP6 or Forte sound module... it seems that Dexibell (formerly Roland) listened. Look here (english subtitles): No longer is Nord the only company to offer free downloadable piano libraries and more.

+1 I also like my Artis 7 with lighter springs a lot, including playing AP sounds with it. And the Master EQ helps a lot to make its old PC3 Rhodes samples shine. I only wish it also had the 7ft AP samples of the Forte SE/SP6.

I am rather underwhelmed by the SP6 which I received earllier this week.The plastic casing squeeked ad creeked when I unboxed it and put it on a keyboard stand. Never experienced that with other plastic casings like CP4 or PX5S. In contrast my PC3X or the Artis 7 are built like tanks. Then I played the SP6 next to my PC3X. By direct comparison the Medeli keyboard felt heavier and somehow doughy to me. And it is way more noisy which is due to the plastic casing I guess. While still quite playable I didnt like the keybed. Then I played the SP6 from the PC3 via Midi. It immediately became apparent to me how much better the TP40L is. No comparison. The SP6s sounds played from the PC3 are a real pleasure, Daves soundset in particular (thanks again!). But I missed an EQ with the APs. Some sounds like the Rhodes programs have a "built-in" EQ. In contrast the APs do not have any EQ. This should be fixed in a future update. All in all, the SP6 said to me: "what you pay is what you get." It is a compromise. A powerful sound engine on the cheap. Great sounds combined with a not so great keybed in a cheap casing. The higher price of the Forte SE is more than justified in my opinion. Kurzweil should put the SP6 engine into a desktop or rack module and offer it for under a grand. I bet that it would be a hot seller.

Dave, Thanks for your generous offer I expect delivery of my SP6 today. Needless to say that I would have ordered it from you if I would live in the US. Tom

The Artis does not have or use the "double Leslie" KB3 programs from the PC3. The SP6 does. I believe the Forte has a few of them that were added in recent OS updates. (They couldn't get them working at the time of release. I have been providing all of the PC3 double Leslie KB3 programs to any Forte owners who want them, free of charge.) The double Leslie versions are a good bit nicer. My Artis 7 is loading the double Leslie programs of my PC3 without any problem. But I can't tell from memory if they are sounding 100 percent identically because I don't use KB3 programs much. For organ sounds I prefer the Uhl X3 or the VR09. The VR09 is a great upper board to complement the Artis 7 BTW. It makes for a great compact lightweight rig.

I used to be a staunch advocate of the SSV3 and I still like it. But the moment I plugged my keys into the MotionSound KP500S I immediately knew what I was missing. Still, the SSV3 is unrivaled at it's size and price point.

Same here. The SP6 is tempting. But I also love my Artis 7 which is not only a great lightweight stagepiano which loads all my PC3 programs but also a crafty Midi masterkeyboard. It's fun to have complete control over Korg Module f.e.

The PC3 didn't have dedicated front panel EQ knobs. But it had a master EQ and Compressor accessible in the FX menu. The SP6 has more FX horse power than the PC3. Maybe a similar EQ/Comp approach could be implemented in a future update?

The SP6 doesnt seem to have a master EQ at all according to the comparison chart (no Master FX): http://kurzweil.com/knowledgebase/forte/product_comparisons/311/ With so much more FX horse power than the PC3 it should be possible to implement this. I think its essential for a stage piano.

Thanks for the review! Did you miss the front panel EQ?

Hope that the promised IOS editor for the SP6 will not just ba a false promise like the long missing IOS editor update for the Artis.... sorry for repeating this over and over again. It's in hope that someone at Kurzweil or Soundtower will finally listen to my endless complaint...

Sounds like poor chinese craftsmansship...

Hope we will see better SP6 demos on YT soon. The sound quality of most of the current YT videos made by KURZWEIL YOUNGCHANG is awful. It sounds like the sound is going through a tin can. And I don't have too much hope for a good editor. Most of the currently available Soundtower Kurzweil editors are not up to scratch - to phrase it politely. Moreover, against all promises the Soundtower Artis iPad editor still doesn't work under IOS11.

Program change commands were also discussed earlier in this thread: https://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2883041/Re_Roland_V_Combo_VR_09#Post2883041

Says someone who opted for a less than optimal Voce V5 which has a useless Chorus.... ;-)

Hmm.... is this the only saving truth or just your opinion? I never tried a Mojo but I know quite a few B3 aficinados who didn't like the Mojo sound. All I'm saying is that subjective recommendations should always be taken with a grain of salt.

You can't go wrong with the HX3. Just listen to the YT demos of the Uhl X3 which essentially is the exact same sound engine. In the latest OS version the HX3 chorus was improved streets ahead of older versions. Very tweakable and spot on. Ever since I hooked my HX3 to my Leslie 147 I stopped checking out other clones. My search is over. Having said that, there are many Mojo/Gemini lovers at KC too. At the end of the day it's always a matter of taste and preferences. Anyway, the HX3 would be a major upgrade on your good old BX3 for sure.

FWIW: I saw Brian Auger in concert yesterday night. He played a Viscount Legend on a B3 like stand with a Korg SV1 on top. The sound was freakin awesome! Completely undistinguishable from his B3.

OT: I prefer Pianoteq 6 to any sampled piano library. It was a real game changer for me. JMTC. Back to topic. ;-)