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There are a few disconnected wires at the terminal strip. This organ was previously owned by a Hammond " tweaker" who used to tear apart mostly spinets and sell parts on ebay.He died and his wife had an estate sale. Most of it is intact and it had a real nice cabinet and bench. What I am trying to determine is if there are tones at the top of the tone generator BEFORE they go to the terminal strip.

Hello....I had high hopes when I went to demo the P 225 but I could not prevent it from sounding overly bright.I probably should try a touch sensitivity adjustment but how would that be done? I did like the action the default piano sound is not my cup of tea.

I have been on the forum for a long time but lost my original screen name when changes were made a year or two ago. So.....I have a '62 B-3 here but there are some issues.Apparently the wires that go from the tone generator to the terminal strip are not making contact.Some of the wires that should go to the terminal strip are disconnected......I need to perhaps communicate with an experienced person but am not in the position to hire a service tech.I understand the principal of the wiring that goes from the generator to the strip.....but there seems to be an issue with the terminal strip OR the ends of the wires that go there.I bought this organ knowing there were issues.....there are 3 or 4 missing tones. Beyond that the cabinet is in real nice shape but someone messed with this organ before I got it. Any help appreciated but please....no abusive comments either.

As far as CK through a leslie the above video does not represent that well. The pentatonic beginner blues licks don't help One acid test would be to see how the percussion tapers in the 5th octave. Yamaha screwed up the chorus vibrato by adding vibrato to the percussion. Who designs these things? I will have to go by GC and see how that percussion is in the last octave. Does it taper off at all? I am still trying to find out how the CFX sample stacks up against the CP4, P515 , Montage etc. The 61 still offers a lot for the money .

I want to say that I appreciate all the good insight and advice on this thread. Thank you for your input The bottom line is.... installation of Ravenscroft is not for the faint of heart. We went through a fair amount of hell to even get it to make sound. I kind of let the thread ride and waited for the information that did show up. I am working with another person... fairly skilled on this and we are going to try the suggestions provided. Once again , thank you. I am in a sense trying to avoid spending another two grand or so for another digital piano. I have some good controllers as candidates ... the best probably being a Yamaha CP5. I do not want a Yamaha sample.... I am not in agreement with how they address low register overtones. Just curious.... would something like Pianoteq be easier to install than this has been ? And last question... does VI Labs offer any support for Ravenscroft Thank you for any and all input

I agree with Joe.... too many hoops here. Consider yourself quite skilled if you got through a Ravenscroft installation.

The PC is the problem? What am I supposed to do, get a Mac? The whole thing about the computer world is that you are supposed to just figure out everything on your own....by intuition. I had a fairly competent person assisting me in trying to install Ravenscroft.... I knew I couldn't install it on my own and apparently he couldn't either. The computer I am using has 8 gig of Ram. It is currently not hooked up because we were trying to get it to run at a different location . At this time I don't know the other specs. I will check the issue of audio interface. I am not using anything out board... it would all be whatever is inside the computer. At one point I was communicating with a person named Lance at VI labs... who I met at NAMM. I may need to see if VI labs is offering any support.

I have been hearing for years about how wonderful the VI Labs Ravenscroft virtual piano is.There are some impressive demos on Youtube etc. so when this software was offered for 99 dollars awhile back I decided to give it a try. A friend of mine who is A LOT more computer savvy than I am offered to help me install it.....we elected to put it on an HP desktop that seemed to offer enough memory and enough ports to plug what ever it might need into it. I apparently tested the patience of my friend during the extremely long installation process. According to him he has never seen anything like the difficulties he encountered installing this thing....particularly involving the additional player required to operate it and the whole dongle issue that had been discussed here before. He finally got it working. So now there are obvious latency issues....how frustrating. I don't know how some of you manage to deal with installing programs like this. And my friend commented that he can't imagine how this product exists with such obvious lack of support. He did talk to Sweetwater and they told him they dumped this product based on some of the very issues we are having. Can anyone comment on what the source of the latency might be? The controller is a Roland FP10....I would like to hear your experiences regarding installing this and if you feel it was worth it.

Also... I did like the pianos. The CFX sample sounds pretty good...also like Warm CFX. The 1973 Rhodes is nice and I liked the Wurli... but could not get tremolo for some reason. Still am not sure what the difference in the CFX sample is between CK models and CP4, P 515, Montage etc. But I do think it sounds good. Overall.... a lot going on and almost a Nord Stage Killer given the price. The Nord probably has better action. What I would do is get the 61 and use another 88 controller.... use the 61 for portable applications rehearsals etc.

I have been playing a CK88 a few times at a local music store... Has any else commented that the CHORUS VIBRATO settings have vibrato on the percussion? The same issue the Roland VR09 had. I guess Yamaha just doesn't get organ. I was surprised when Roland did it.

I was not aware that this is how Amazon works.... that they broker for other small stores. So Palen Music and I were both caught in the middle of this. The problem is communicating with Amazon. It is really really difficult. I would NEVER buy an expensive item from them again. I didn't know it would be this crazy. Bottom line...they advertised a Yamaha CK88 for 999. Of course people like me would be tempted by this.....I have documentation .....but the refund has gotten screwed up because it is coming from someone other than Amazon.

I ordered a CK88 on Amazon for $ 999.00. Well of course this order got screwed up. The order went to a music store in MIssouri called Palen Music and they refused to honor this order. My first experience with Amazon. What a nightmare trying to communicate with them. Not sure where my money went at this point. I could possibly start another thread about dealing with Amazon. When you call customer service you get the somebody in the Phillipines with very thick accents... Businesses are closing all around me and one very possible reason is because it is cheaper to buy things on Amazon. My trustworthy local auto parts store is going out of business....Amazon has certainly affected this. When it comes to customer service , Amazon sucks. To talk to them you have to Log in with passwords ....security codes....and trying to figure out what they are even saying through bad phone connections and thick accents I made a huge mistake trying to snag a bargain on this. Lesson learned!

In reply to Another Scott about leslie sim on spin.... As soon as it becomes stereo... the sound of percussion changes. And then when it spins the tone of the whole thing is altered. I am NEVER trying to emulate a "miked" leslie. Why would I want to do that? I want to hear a natural leslie not a miked one. I don't understand this miked business....mike distance and all that as it appears on Crumar Mojo. etc Crumar is NOT my favorite sim by a long shot. I have the module.Too much riff raff on that one. I don't think my problem is an "APP" or "VST". Simulation changes percussion if you listen critically to ANY of them. I have Mojo, HX3, Viscount and Numa 1. Numa 1 affects the organ tone less than any of them. Numa 1 also has excellent chorus vibrato. But the percussion changes as soon as it becomes stereo. A tonewheel Hammond does not have stereo percussion. That is the problem. Sorry

There is one thing I don't care for about EVERY leslie sim, I don't care which one you have. That is the way these sims affect PERCUSSION. My opinion is also...percussion does not sound right in stereo. There is a "twang" is the motion simulation My solution is .... get percussion separated from the sim . The way I do this is to run a separate percussion source from a module such as HX3 or whatever. The percussion will not "spin" of course.... but that is fine....a small compromise for accurate tone. Overall I like clones but there is a real art to getting them to sound authentic. I also do not agree with trying to achieve a " miked" leslie sound. What the F is that? Miked through what? OK enough....but I can pick out the twang of the percussion in just about every performance or recording I have herad of leslie simulation. Member 1.3k

What is up these days with no 5 pin midi? I don't get it...all the cheap CASIOS had MIDI 10 to 15 years ago.... I have an FP10.... I think a lot of people missed the boat on that one. I think the piano sounds very good if you adjust touch sensitivity. The FP 10 has PHA4 so I know it....yes it is a little tough but no more so than a Yamaha P140 I still have... I prefer PHA4 to that. I practice mainly chord arrangements on the FP 10... not chops excercise or any of that. I am assuming this new Roland has a Supernatural variation. I am a big Roland fan...still using a RD300GX by the way.... a classic. When you compare the 300GX to just about anything else from around 2010 or so you can see why sometimes Roland might be ahead of the curve. They are for me in the lightweight department with the FP 10.

Is this thread dead?.....How is that CFX compared to its predescessors? If I had unlimited funds ....I would get one and use it as a module for a CP5 I have as a controller. I also like the idea of a 61 running on batteries for summer outings. The local piano store will be carrying the CK. At least it is accessible...unlike some Rolands I have still yet to hear such as the FP 90x

I HAVE SOME BASIC ck QUESTIONS... Is this the same acoustic sample... CFX...as the Yamaha CP4? Or is it compromised in some way? Am I hearing things or is there VIBRATO on organ percussion when chorus vibrato engaged?If so this would be the same scenario as the Roland VR09. I have had hands on the CK 61 and liked it. I guess I don't expect a great leslie sim or chorus vibrato. I will say I am not wild about very many leslie sims...they seem to affect the basic organ tone too much. Percussion seemed decent on the CK.It would probably sound good through a real leslie. Interesting it has taken Yamaha this long to take some attempts at drawbar organ.