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If you could be a guitarist in any decade......


clockwirk

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...which one would you pick? Taking into account style, gear, the state of popular music, politics, guitar heros, creativity.....etc..

 

For me the knee jerk reaction is to say the sixties because of all the classic music that was to happen in that decade. Plus, it'd be nice to get my hands on some of that gear!! Then I think that the seventies had Zepplin and Floyd....hmmm. The eighties are when the gutiarist was pushed to the limelight, but that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The technology now opens up a lot of cool creativity options, plus you can kind of restructure the classic gear sounds, but you have to put up with the pathetic state of pop music. i dunno, whadya think?

There's always the forties and fifties..

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OK, I admit it, I am that old. I was a guitarist in the sixties, which means I was a guitarist in the seventies, etc....

The sixties was great, I only got in on the last few years of it but it was open and fun. The seventies, everybody copped an attitude, tensions were running high, who was supposed be then next Hendrix, Beatles, then punk rock hit and cleared the air.

Having grown weary of trends by the time the eighties rolled around I joined a good time/comedy/bar band called "Cowboys on Fire" that played Stray Cats, psuedo country, blues and experimental jams that defied description. It was great, no Def Leppard, Whitesnake or any of that overkilled two-hand tapping hair band stuff.

Now I am a solo act playing all fingerstyle nylon string, mainly classical and flamenco, but I can teach almost any style or level!

 

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let's see...

 

eddie van halen-

rocks on guitar and gets to sleep with valerie b. but he's a complaining singerless ex-drunk who needs a new hip. have to pass.

 

richie sambora-

has heather locklear (from a motley crue yard sale) but you'd have to be in bon jovi and like it. tough choice.

 

lenny kravitz-

had lisa bonet, ingrid chavez, vannessa paradise, and madonna. you'd have to butcher "american woman" but it might be worth it. this one's a maybe.

 

david navarro-

has carmen electra (from a dennis rodman/prince yard sale)plus fiona apple. but he likes to sleep in a coffin and has rings in his nipples. ouch! not for me.

 

jimmy page-

really only liked 14 year old girls. that's a no-no right there. (see rockstar 101 chapter on jerry lee lewis) plus he beat them and stuff. add all the black magic shit, heroin, and having to put up with hippie dippy robert plant and, even though he made some of the best riffs ever, i think the answer is still no.

 

jimi hendrix-

get to be a true guitar god. play woodstock. burn guitars. write trite, spaced out hippie lyrics, sleep with some decent looking girls and be a studio genius. but there's that damn "choking on your own vomit" thing. gonna have to say no to that one. sorry jimi, it coulda been fun!

 

eric clapton-

stole george harrison's wife and didn't keep her. lost sheryl crow to kid rock. had huge junkie/alcholic periods. son fell out window. stole an albert king solo note for note (strange brew)... you'd have to play that horrible acoustic "layla" not to mention most of his 70's-80's output. i'll pass.

 

jeff beck-

(does he even like women? or just cars?) one of the best players ever, but he's grumpy, made a lot of shitty records, had a spinal tap character based on him, and where's the girls?? hell, where's rod stewart? i'd have to pass again

 

john lennon-

plus= get to be a beatle, write all those great songs, have that great voice, all those number ones. minus= have to listem to yoko sing in the shower ..i'll have to say no.

 

chuck berry-

invents rock and roll guitar and writes an incredible body of american poetry and beds 1000's of women even at his advanced age. BUT... spends too much time in jail. always has a shitty pickup band. takes nasty videos of females employees peeing, violates the mann act, tax evasion. oh and if you've seen the pictures of the 100's of women? they don't even add up to one pretty one. sadly and loudly have to say no.

 

dwight yokam-

plus=get to sleep with bridget fonda. minus=have to wear big dumb cowboy hat. call it a draw partner.

 

lyle lovett-

plus=get to sleep with julia roberts. write some amazing songs. minus=have to look like lyle lovett. julia roberts wakes up from drug-induced haze and realizes that she's married to lyle lovett and high-tails it outta there. did i mention you have to look like lyle lovett? that's a big no.

 

chris robinson (black crowes)-

plus=get to sleep with kate hudson. minus=don't actually get to play guitar 'cause your brother rich is the guitar player. might not be so bad.

 

kid rock-

goes from porn star to porn star to sheryl crow to flat-out stealing pam anderson from tommy lee. can he even play a "g" chord on guitar? who cares. this one's a contender!

 

prince-

had madonna, carmen electra, sheila e, the one cute bangle, kim bassinger, vanity, possibly sheryl crowe, apollonia, and too many others. a mofo on guitar, bass, keys, songwriting, arranging, studiocraft, etc. has most of sly and the family stone in his band as well as chukka Khan. you would have to dress like a foppish troll though. i like the odds. i pick prince!

 

-d. gauss

 

 

This message has been edited by d gauss on 09-24-2001 at 10:24 AM

 

This message has been edited by d gauss on 09-24-2001 at 10:25 AM

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actually d gauss........

i meant that you would remain yourself and choose a decade in which to be a guitarist(you) in. The era is the choice. but, your post is to cool to bash. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Originally posted by clockwirk:

actually d gauss........

i meant that you would remain yourself and choose a decade in which to be a guitarist(you) in. The era is the choice. but, your post is to cool to bash. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

 

Probably the mid sixties in San Francisco. They really hadn't figured out what to do with electric guitars yet...and the playing was generally sucky. Most of the people were folkies...and the early "psychedelic" stuff was pretty bad. Clapton etc hadn't surfaced across the pond yet. The market would have been wide open...

"Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine"
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Any decade in which the Gators dominate the 'Noles, for surely all else will be perfection in that wondrous time.

 

Otherwise the '60s. Cause that's when I grew up and when I first learned to play guitar, and actually played in a band, and a lot was happening and it was a great time to be alive. The '60s songs evoke more memories and feelings then any other time (though the '70s have a great influence).

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The banner years for my style of music were 1985-1994... especially the late 80's... with bands like the Descendents, Hüsker Dü, the Minutemen, Dinosaur Jr.

 

Then the Seattle bands came along, in 91 or 92, with their white-washed, toned-down versions of the "alterna-punk" sound (which someone decided to call "grunge"... man, I hate that name!) and made it popular. It was the beginning of the end. Funny thing about being an "alternative" band... as soon as you become popular, you lose all your credibility.

 

By 1994 the radio-friendly "grunge" imposters had killed the whole genre. People were describing my band's music as "Seattle-style grunge" even though we had all been playing this music for years... since long before anyone ever heard of Nirvana or Pearl Jam.

 

Anyway... if I could go back to any time, it would be those years when my style of music was just a buzz in the underground clubs... and "alternative" still meant something.

Scott

(just another cantankerous bastard)

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ROFL d gauss that was about the funniest thing I've read in a long time! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

 

The only disappointment is: you left out Keef.

 

Anyhow my answer to the question ought to be obvious: the 60's. I mostly missed 'em - I mean I wasn't born until 1963. Didn't start playing guitar until 1975. Boyo boy would I have loved to have been in some great club band in the 60's and played thru a brand new original Vox AC30.

 

'Course most of my gear dates from the 60's anyhow and I AM in a band that plays a lot of music from that period very well, only without the drugs... so maybe I'm better off after all... http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

--Lee

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aw jeez... awright you asked for it...

 

keith richards-

put the DRUGS and ROCK in sex and drugs and rock n roll. after a night with ry cooder decides that 6 strings are one too many and plays only 5 in open "g". plus=got to sleep with anita pallenberg and patti hansen. only guitarist to ever do chuck berry like chuck berry. survives major drug abuse of body. minus= looks like an evil, grey, prune with a slurred, speech impediment. sings like cat in heat. finally got to record "harlem shuffle" and it sucked. has to put up with mick jagger and his trendiness. when the world finnally ends, there will be two thing left...cockroaches and keith richards. i'd trade places with him in a second. go keef!

 

stevie ray vaughan-

nice enough fellow who really learned how to play guitar and could easily hold his own with the guys he stole from (albert king, buddy guy, etc.). defined blues tone for the nex generation. managed to put up with david bowie. ugly as sin and had a silly wardrobe that even hendrix wouldn't wear if he was alive. did enough coke and booze til he puked blood. ouch! played with cheese cutters (.0013 or .014 high e) for guitar strings and used to use crazy glue to graft skin from his forearm onto his fingers so he could play each night. double ouch!

was very devoted to his wife. wrote a song about her. did not have good luck flying in helicopters. regretfully have to pass, though brother jimmie is a good tasteful candidate... sorry stevie, i miss you!

 

-d. gauss

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Hey, Gauss! Great post, very insightful. Man, it must really SUCK to be a guitar hero!

 

A few more...

 

Joe Pass: jazz god, (minus) heroin

Django Reinhart: jazz super god, (minus) fingers

Al DiMeola: shred master, (minus) bland, has yet to smile

Ymgwie Malmstein: shred master, (minus) wake me when it's over

Eric Johnson: shred god, (minus) doomed to relative obscurity

Ricky Scaggs: damn, that boy can play, (minus) stuck in country, last name

Alex Lifeson: make money for decades playing prog, (minus) upstaged by a bass player

The Edge: great gig for a modest player, (minus) monotonous licks, goggles

Andy Summers: innovative sound makes hot band even better, (minus) gig cut short by childish band mates

Billy Corgan: god to thirteen-year-olds, (minus) that WAS the minus

Curt Cobain: god to Gen-X, (minus) psychosis

Rick Neilsen: fun gig, (minus) the clothes worked better on Elton John

George Harrison: perfect fit for The Beatles, (minus) no room in the spotlight

Santana: his axe sheds real tears, (minus) missed last space ship to home planet

Vai: played with Zappa, (minus) can't stop showing off long enough to make a good album

Satriani: same as Vai, but didn't play with Zappa

Zappa: sharp wit, wild SG meanderings, (minus) Devil confiscated his titties and beer

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i'd pick mid 50's to early 60's england (wouldn't care what player i was):

 

imagine hearing a chuck berry riff for the first time and not mentally connecting it to some hack bar band. watching elvis on tv. or going to import record stores to get the latest howlin' wolf record. and then going to a couple of your art school classmates' basement to learn how to play and maybe start a band. sometimes you play with this guy brian jones and his friend keith, or this other skinny guy lennon and his friend paul. and these 3 other guys you know all have this guitar teacher named big jim sullivan whose really good. so you take lessons from him and start jamming with the other 3: a guy named page, another named beck and the last one blackmore. then you all go to a gene vincent concert together and are floored by cliff gallup. you talk to cliff after the show and he suggests you then go to an afterhours club and see t-bone walker and wes montgomery. while there, you meet your neighbor, this guy john mayall who has all the latest blues and rock n roll records from america, and he introduces you to this cat clapton and tells you about this other guy peter green who's gonna be in his band one day. oh, and all the girls want to sleep with ANY guy who's in ANY band that doesn't sound like andy williams....

 

that would have been fun.

 

-d. gauss

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LOL I often dream about that too d gauss. That would've been the shit. I recently read Ian McLagan's autobiography "All The Rage", and if you haven't read it, run, don't walk to the bookstore and pick up a copy. Talk about a guy who was in the right place at the right time! Sheesh, to be 19 and a musician in London when the Beatles, Stones, Who, Yardbirds, etc. were playing in little clubs... damn.

 

I had a dream one time that I got hold of a time machine and I went back to 1964 and saw the Stones at some ballroom in England. Everything was in black and white although I normally dream in color. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif This was in the early 80's that I had this dream and I had a copy of "Tattoo You" with me and I showed it to Mick and Keith and told them they were still going to be together all those years later. Then I got into a really long conversation about blues with Brian Jones and it was really great... but I had to be real careful not to mention anything to him about the future...

 

--Lee

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Originally posted by gatorwing@aol.com:

Any decade in which the Gators dominate the 'Noles, for surely all else will be perfection in that wondrous time.

 

 

Ahhh! Thanks for reminding me! I'd be Joe Perry. Hmmm...what was their first hit? "Dream On"...HAHAHAHAHAHA....

"Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine"
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Originally posted by d gauss:

hey dan,

 

i never knew joe pass was a junkie. wow, that one floored me! damn, i'd do smack if it would allow me to play like chord solos like that guy...thanks for the info.

 

-d. gauss

 

As far as I know, the man is clean and sober these days. According to an article that I read in Down Beat in the 70's, Mr. P. indicated that he'd taken a few rides on the horse and had spent a little time in the pen in his youth (don't know whether the two were related). It wasn't easy to avoid that kind o' thing in the heyday of jazz, y'know.

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I pick the 1910s! But you have to let me take a Marshall JCM900, a Boss HM-2, and a Carvin X-220 with me and also give me some time to learn how to play "Eruption" again! I figure that they'll pass out from shock and I can empty their wallets http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

Realistically, I'd pick the '60s. That way I could rip through all my pentatonic solos and do a few of my nifty pull-off maneuvers and everyone would be really impressed. Today, they all just yawn http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/frown.gif

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Originally posted by rog951:

I pick the 1910s! But you have to let me take a Marshall JCM900, a Boss HM-2, and a Carvin X-220 with me and also give me some time to learn how to play "Eruption" again! I figure that they'll pass out from shock and I can empty their wallets http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

 

http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/frown.gif

 

of course by altering the course of time with your eruption licks back in the 1910's, you'd dramatically shift the state of music in the present. Who knows what would be hip when you got back? Maybe by doing that you would alter the course of human history itself.

It'd be pretty funny if you went back, showed off your chops, returned to 2001, and found everyone speaking german.

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Originally posted by clockwirk:

It'd be pretty funny if you went back, showed off your chops, returned to 2001, and found everyone speaking german.

 

Die Stimmen in meinem Kopf sprechen eine Fremdsprache! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif

Scott

(just another cantankerous bastard)

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It'd be pretty funny if you went back, showed off your chops, returned to 2001, and found everyone speaking german. [/b]

 

Hmmmmm. I didn't think of that. Guess I better shelf the idea. I don't wanna end up playing Hofners the rest of my life!

None more black.
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1920's and early 1960's would be fab. The latter cause it would be so cool to blast what I know now to an unsuspecting audience. The twenties cause no white boy ever ripped the blues/played slide back then, I'd be a phenom! Plus you could openly smoke whacky tobacco. And the flapper chicks....oh yeah!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Scott from MA:

You should be so lucky!! My 1963 Hofner Verithin is the nicest guitar I've ever played.

 

D'oh! My bad, Scott! I was just joking around...I've never even played one. Sincerest apologies! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/frown.gif

None more black.
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