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Originally posted by Analogaddict:

Imagine playing pedal steel licks, only bending the note(s) of choice, or setting your pitch controller of chiose to affect more parameters. That way you wouldn´t have to move your hand quite as often. Or to be able to affect a sound at the ADS stages, or perhaps only the stage of your choise! I love the thought, and I´m sure it could be done on modulars - maybe the nord modular or the Arturia Moog modular?

 

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Ah! Okay, thanks.

 

As far as implentation in a modular, singling out the release stage is easy, since it is the only stage of a standard ADSR EG that is enabled when the gate is removed. So all you'd need is an inverter to send the gate through, and then route it to an control input on a module of your choosing.

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Originally posted by Mike Martin:

Some products (Ensoniq and Kurzweil) allow you to do pitch bending of notes that are held. So you can play a chord and sustain it using a pedal, but then bend the notes that you continue to hold.

Aaahhhh, yes - one of my favorite performance features of the VAST synths. If you're gonna emulate a guitar, this feature is absolutely invaluable, IMO.

 

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Originally posted by Odyssian:

That's an interesting question, Postman. I can't think of any conventional synths that can do this, but it could be done on most well-equipped modular synths.

 

How would one make use of this feature in their playing?

It solves a problem that only I seem to have. If while playing, I bend up to a note, I typically don't want it to spring back down to where it originally was when I release the note and pitchbender. If the patch I'm playing doesn't have a release time of zero, I get to hear that snap back in between the time I take my finger off the key and the time I play the next key. It drives me nuts.
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Wow. I've encountered that, but never gave it a second thought! I always just figured it's something I'd have to live with.

 

Perhaps you could route aftertouch to release. Just as a guitarist has to consciously mute the strings to avoid that snapback, so you'd have to apply a bit of aftertouch which would bring the release point to zero.

 

Originally posted by Postman:

Originally posted by Odyssian:

How would one make use of this feature in their playing?

It solves a problem that only I seem to have. If while playing, I bend up to a note, I typically don't want it to spring back down to where it originally was when I release the note and pitchbender. If the patch I'm playing doesn't have a release time of zero, I get to hear that snap back in between the time I take my finger off the key and the time I play the next key. It drives me nuts.

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Originally posted by Postman:

Originally posted by Odyssian:

That's an interesting question, Postman. I can't think of any conventional synths that can do this, but it could be done on most well-equipped modular synths.

 

How would one make use of this feature in their playing?

It solves a problem that only I seem to have. If while playing, I bend up to a note, I typically don't want it to spring back down to where it originally was when I release the note and pitchbender. If the patch I'm playing doesn't have a release time of zero, I get to hear that snap back in between the time I take my finger off the key and the time I play the next key. It drives me nuts.
If you want to stay in VA territory, the nord modular family will enable that. Essentially scanning the pitch bend messages and using a logic function based on that to set envelope time. That would be a hard shut off.

 

Additionally any VA that allows you to use pitch bend as a mod source and envelope time as a destination will allow you to do something similar (close), although it may be a graduated thing as opposed to a hard shut off.

 

It may even be preferable to a hard shut off. Even though it's not perfect, it may give you the kind of rapid "fall" you get as take the breath pressure off a trumpet. i.e. it may turn out to be more organic.

 

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