Blues Disciple Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 If you had the money on hand (i.e: $ 2,000 for a Hammond M/L/A/A100 with a Leslie vs. a single manual clone or $ 4-5,000 for a Hammond B or C with a Leslie vs. a double manual clone) would you buy the Real Thing or the Clone? "With the help of God and true friends I've come to realize, I still have two strong legs and even wings to fly" Gregg Allman from "Ain't Wastin Time No More" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Do I have to move it? If you've never played the real thing it's a must have experience, whether you go with a clone or not. No substitute for a real leslie. A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Pierce Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 I'm with Ted -- if I had roadies, I would probably already have scraped together a B3, C3 or A-100 somehow. But how the heck am I going to get it from gig to gig? Up stairs? Through tight doorways? Onto tiny postage-stamp stages? The real thing is sweet, and clearly gives a superior sound to my clone, but it's just not practical for what I do. --Dave Make my funk the P-funk. I wants to get funked up. My Funk/Jam originals project: http://www.thefunkery.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowly Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 What I don`t like about a real B is that there are only 36 different notes, with a clone you can get 61 different notes. Kcbass "Let It Be!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Fortner Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 A clone through a real Leslie is a great compromise. The short-cab Leslies, liike the 142 and 145, are realtively easy to get up stairs and in and out of vans with just one friend helping you. And knowing that horn is behind you onstage, dutifully churning away....aaahhhhhh. I tried my VK-7 through a Leslie 302 for awhile, too, before selling the 302 to Steve LeBlanc because I needed the cash. As much bashing as Ham-Suz Leslies take, it sounded really great. Stephen Fortner Principal, Fortner Media Former Editor in Chief, Keyboard Magazine Digital Piano Consultant, Piano Buyer Magazine Industry affiliations: Antares, Arturia, Giles Communications, MS Media, Polyverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 "I'm with Ted -- if I had roadies, I would probably already have scraped together a B3, C3 or A-100 somehow. But how the heck am I going to get it from gig to gig? Up stairs? Through tight doorways? Onto tiny postage-stamp stages?" I've hauled an A100 to more than a hundred gigs, without even a vehicle of my own. Now that I have a vehicle, what happened to the driver/roadie? Used to be one that came with the van, and plenty of folks have recieved the honorary title "organ donor" after burning some back for the cause. Obviously it's a relief not to haul that weight in addition to the Leslie, but the faux hammond is much more complicated to set up- A Hammond and Leslie is simplicity itself. Now there are just too many cool things you can do like automate the drawbars (like having 3 or 4 hands), and submixing organ and other sounds to put through the Leslies. Amazing to add some bell sounds to the organ sound, electric piano sounds too. Or route the vox through the Leslies too. Or pre-recorded things, why not backwards guitars. A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 Would you please explain this further? How can 91 tonewheels produce only 36 notes? Originally posted by Kcbass: What I don`t like about a real B is that there are only 36 different notes, with a clone you can get 61 different notes. KcbassAnd for the record... 3 years ago the clones weren't nearly as good as they are now. Back then I bought an A100, but manOman am I tired of lugging that thing up & down stairs. Today I'd probably buy a clone of some sort (likely the new BX3 if I had the $$ on hand). I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve LeBlanc Posted August 19, 2002 Share Posted August 19, 2002 I tried my VK-7 through a Leslie 302 for awhile, too, before selling the 302 to Steve LeBlanc because I needed the cash. As much bashing as Ham-Suz Leslies take, it sounded really great.Yep, I agree it sounds great! "Jamfree 2002" http://www.artistlaunch.com/jamfreelive http://www.youtube.com/notesleb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbobus Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Yeah, it really depends on the roadie factor. If I would have a roadie I would give him some hard working and get the B3 with Leslie. I checked out the CX3. Really cool but I'm not sure if it was the amp or the organ... the sound was a little too clean for my taste. Gonna take the VK8 for a test drive this week and I can't wait! http://www.bobwijnen.nl Hipness is not a state of mind, it's a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superbobus Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Yeah, it really depends on the roadie factor. If I would have a roadie I would give him some hard working and get the B3 with Leslie. I checked out the CX3. Really cool but I'm not sure if it was the amp or the organ... the sound was a little too clean for my taste. Gonna take the VK8 for a test drive this week and I can't wait! http://www.bobwijnen.nl Hipness is not a state of mind, it's a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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