CoolColJ Posted September 9, 2001 Share Posted September 9, 2001 Anyway I made a whole bunch of mp3s of my Andromeda. Some are presets, the rest are my patches - mainly the bass, lead and drums Pretty versatile machine I must say! http://members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj/SoundBites/ you can find more here as well http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/ Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted September 9, 2001 Share Posted September 9, 2001 Colin you rule. I wanted to say how nice it is to see you over here. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Also how much I appreciate your sharing your research into Andromeda's capabilities with us. It's the first time I've seen somebody dive so deep so quickly into a synth. I guess the months of waiting were a great motivator, eh? Regards, Jerry ------------------ www.tuskerfort.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 9, 2001 Author Share Posted September 9, 2001 Well I've always wanted a deep synth that had a analog signal path, but easier to use than a modular, and Alesis made one http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif In the past I've dabbled with soft-synths to appease the mad scientist in me, but the sound just didn't turn me on, now the Andromeda has the sound to back up the features. I'll be honest, it wasn't love at first play. I was tempted to sell the thing after my first hour with it. I'm not sure why, maybe its because my ears are too used to hearing the Fairchild on everything http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 11, 2001 Author Share Posted September 11, 2001 I hear comments about the Andromeda not being a dance synth - well IMO it can do any genre here is a 303 emulation http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_TB303.mp3 Using just the saw, both SEM filter and Moog filter in series The SEM HPF is used to remove the low end, and Moog filter for filtering. Running em like this gives Rolandish sound. Used the Step Sequencer to modulate similar things as on the 303 http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Reall the A6 can take a hand in every analog sound you cna think and a few not so analog sounds too! Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 12, 2001 Author Share Posted September 12, 2001 A bit of fun with the A6's arp http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_LatchedARP.mp3 I just latched 4 notes, and turned on progression going up 5ths with a minimum spacing of 7ths - lovely! With delay as well. Just a 2VCO Sine patch with some PWM square on VCO1, plus overdrive from the SEM LPF resonance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 13, 2001 Author Share Posted September 13, 2001 - I made some 808 type sounds, added my Mini bass patch, my Mks80 pad patch, and a wormy sololead sound and this is the result http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Sequenced from Logic and totally dry 100% Andromeda Not bad for an 30mins work http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Link: http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_808KitSong.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHICK KOREA Posted September 13, 2001 Share Posted September 13, 2001 hey and studio electronics omega 8 do you know anyplace .. that have lots of demos of it......... that are very very rare i have only seen one place the oficcial sight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 13, 2001 Author Share Posted September 13, 2001 Well it does cost alot, and so not many are willing to keep one in stock for demo purposes. I believe SE will have more demos online when their new site goes online (I've been talking to the guy who is coding their new site) Well if money is no object, the Omega 8 is the easier to use of the 2 IMO. And possible slighty thicker sounding of the too (more bass), but the Andromeda is probably too large sounding! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif The Andromeda also does way more. It can as you've heard do nice drum sounds due to its extremely flexible architecture that rivals the Matrix12/Expander and Modular synths. It can run the filters in series which allows it to sound like a Roland as well as the Oberheim and Moog sound its filters have, which the Omega can't, only one filter type at a time - a terrible waste! I don't recommend the Andromeda to beginneers, and even people who have extensive analog expereince may flounder a bit. If you have used Modular synths then you'll be a home. Its a "mad scientist" type synth http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Defintely the first Analog Workstation synth Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted September 13, 2001 Share Posted September 13, 2001 Colin: My compliments. Very nice sounds. The Juno bass and the modular (ringmod, fm, etc.) stuff was my favorite. It seems to do both Moog and Roland (with the SEM HPF arrangement) very well. The only instruments it didn't seem to quite as well would be an SEM itself. There was on obie brass patch and it was ... just ok. None of that real metallic grunt. Maybe because of the (moog 921-based) oscillators, or it may just have been that patch. Still, quite the mega synth with lots of range. I am curious if it can do a mellower but open sounding moog lead sound. There are some very brassy ones on mp3 that sound moogy (I think soundwave did one), but not mellow-musical-moogy if you know what I mean. You would you could take one of the brassy moog sounds, pull back on the filter add a touch of resonance and you would be done, but with a lot of synths you lose the character. (I am talking about about a simple prog-rock type lead, not the nasal Dr. Dre stuff. ) It's neat that you know your way around the A6 so well. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, Jerry ------------------ www.tuskerfort.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 13, 2001 Author Share Posted September 13, 2001 Tusker, I actually made that Obie Brass patch a bit mellower, I hate metallic http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif You can overdrive the Oscillator mixer to get metallic VCO sound, as well as the Filter mixer as well. I'll make an mp3 showing the harsher SEM sounds and that mellow open Moog sound you requested This message has been edited by CoolColJ on 09-13-2001 at 06:08 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougP Posted September 14, 2001 Share Posted September 14, 2001 Originally posted by Tusker: Still, quite the mega synth with lots of range. I am curious if it can do a mellower but open sounding moog lead sound. There are some very brassy ones on mp3 that sound moogy (I think soundwave did one), but not mellow-musical-moogy if you know what I mean. You would you could take one of the brassy moog sounds, pull back on the filter add a touch of resonance and you would be done, but with a lot of synths you lose the character. (I am talking about about a simple prog-rock type lead, not the nasal Dr. Dre stuff. ) The "Clean Lead" preset does (IMO) a really good "mellow moog lead" type sound, WITHOUT using the oscillators at all - it's entirely self-oscillating 24dB filter. However, it IS (also IMO) more of a "Dre" (or "Worrell" - perfect for 70s soul/funk) than "prog" lead. Definitely NOT brassy, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 14, 2001 Author Share Posted September 14, 2001 Listen to my Beautiful TR808 emulation on the Andromeda!!! So analog and warm! What poly synth does this? http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_TR808.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 14, 2001 Author Share Posted September 14, 2001 Hey Tusker this is what your looking for Moog lead wise? http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/ATMinimoog2.mp3 Andromeda Minimoog emulation from a real Moog Expert http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 14, 2001 Author Share Posted September 14, 2001 Don't know how a real SEM sounds, but here are my mp3s http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Excuse my playing http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Minilead http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_MiniLead.mp3 Unlike the Minimoog, the A6 has linear resonance, so I had to use the filter envelope to modulate the resonance to mimick this. Ie less resonance at lower frequencies. Two Oberheim SEM sounds - I think - http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_SEMLead.mp3 http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_MrSEM.mp3 Jerry remeber Alesis made the SEM filter less metallic, and also added more resonance Colin This message has been edited by CoolColJ on 09-13-2001 at 08:57 PM This message has been edited by CoolColJ on 09-13-2001 at 09:00 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 14, 2001 Author Share Posted September 14, 2001 Chick Korea - this is the only other Omega 8 demo I have seen http://www.strumentimusicali.jackson.it/Audio/MP3/SM233/Omega8.MP3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 15, 2001 Author Share Posted September 15, 2001 Oh yeah forgot to post this SEM filter doing a 303 impersonation in full force http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_AcidSEMStylee.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 15, 2001 Author Share Posted September 15, 2001 I can't believe it! I was programming some sounds this morning and came up with this beauty it does sound a bit like a acoustic piano! A bit more work and it could get even closer. Amazing for an analog synth! http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/eek.gif http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_AcousticPiano.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 26, 2001 Author Share Posted September 26, 2001 Fat bass, ripping leads, lush strings, piano sounds and in yer face analog percussion, the A6 can do it all! Analog Workstation for sure http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif The key to making the A6 sounding nice and smooth and bassy is keeping the VCOs low in level at the Pre-filter mixer each VCO under 25) or else it ends up gritty from the distortion as heard on the presets... I made some new mp3s - enjoy http://members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj/SoundBites/ This message has been edited by CoolColJ on 09-26-2001 at 01:30 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted September 30, 2001 Author Share Posted September 30, 2001 The Multimode filter on the A6 is based on the Oberheim SEM Filter, so its only 12db. But on the Andromeda you can feed the voice outs back into the Filter input SO I decided to try see what the 12db filter would sound like doubled up - ie 24db SEM filtering http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Well I tried it and it sounds great, but not quite what I expected. Its nothing like a Juno 24db filter http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif But man if only we had a 24db switch for the 12db filter... I like it better in 24db - not as harsh Anyway here is what it sounds like - http://members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj/SoundBites/CCJ_A6_24dbSEM.mp3 Colin http://www.geocities.com/coolcolj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted October 3, 2001 Share Posted October 3, 2001 Originally posted by CoolColJ: Don't know how a real SEM sounds, but here are my mp3s http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Excuse my playing http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Minilead http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_MiniLead.mp3 Unlike the Minimoog, the A6 has linear resonance, so I had to use the filter envelope to modulate the resonance to mimick this. Ie less resonance at lower frequencies. Two Oberheim SEM sounds - I think - http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_SEMLead.mp3 http://www.code404.com/a6/audio/CCJ_A6_MrSEM.mp3 Jerry remeber Alesis made the SEM filter less metallic, and also added more resonance Colin B] Colin: I have been following your progress here and at the gas-station and I have to say there are some lovely mp3's you've been coming up with. Hmmh, the mini isn't quite what I had in mind, more like that open modular sound that emerson gets, less agressive (filter envelope), square or saw wave, but a kind of buzzy electric open quality with a subtle shimmer to the sound (I think it's just the oscillator drift that creates most of the movement and interest, though it requires a touch of resonance and careful tuning of the cutoff to get it to shimmer). It shouldn't sound quite so rubbery and snappy (though that is fun too)... The SEM mp3's are really attractive to me.. the SEM lead (very musical.. whether authentic or not http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif). The 303 stylee one is quite remarkable. That's a lovely filter. And I thought I would be loving the 24DB filter..... Regards, Jerry ------------------ www.tuskerfort.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted October 3, 2001 Author Share Posted October 3, 2001 Well I don't know EMrson so I have no idea of what you speak of - email me an mp3, and I 'll see what I can do http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif The Moog filter on the Andromeda is not very good at all http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/frown.gif It sounds odd and rather weak. I much prefer the Filter on my Juno 106 any day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted October 5, 2001 Author Share Posted October 5, 2001 Tusker - The SEM lead mp3, I actually overloaded the VCOS to make em harsher like the Oberheims are known for http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif I kept the Mini lead, clean and smooth, perhaps you prefer it overdirven http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif I did this simplified rendition of Yazoo's "Only You" on the Andromeda! A whole lotta fun - 100% Andromeda, even the essential hookline delay. I progammed all the sounds from scratch, including the 808 drums http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj/SoundBites/CCJ_A6_OnlyYou.mp3 Enjoy - its fairly close too for a few hours work! Andromeda amazes me sometimes as a analog workstation http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/cool.gif Colin ------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolColJ Posted October 7, 2001 Author Share Posted October 7, 2001 Simple renditions done on my Alesis Andromeda Boards of Canada's "Roygobiv" http://members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj/SoundBites/CCJ_A6_Roygbiv.mp3 And Jarre's Oxygen 4 http://members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj/SoundBites/CCJ_A6_Oxygene4.mp3 Yeap Andromeda's got that vintage analog beef and warmth down http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif Colin This message has been edited by CoolColJ on 10-07-2001 at 03:08 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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