alienudityaol.com Posted October 20, 2000 Share Posted October 20, 2000 This seems to be a question that takes on many forms, and seems to have as many possible answers. Here is my situation and the question I need some suggestions on. I want to sing live over pre-recorded "Electronica" music that has guitars and harmony/backing vocals. It seems the old standard is DAT or Minidisc, but I would like to have the ability to have separate "line outs" for each pre-recorded part. This way the soundman can EQ the mix much better, and I can add or subtract parts as needed. For instance the soundman can boost the kick without boosting the synth bass line, and when I get a guitar player sitting in, I can just mute the guitar track or harmony vocal track. I just bought an Roland Sp808ex with the op-1 option that allows for separate outs for the four tracks, but I want eight tracks now and I don't trust the zip drive live. So I'm still looking. Any suggestions out there? Would an ADAT or TASCAM DA series recorder work? What are the pro's using these day's for pre-recorded tracks? Thanks for such an Incredible forum. -Sleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suremann Posted October 20, 2000 Share Posted October 20, 2000 Major cruise lines and theme parks have been using ADAT's to suppliment their live shows for quite a few years now. I mixed ADAT with live show bands for almost three years without a problem (from the machines), though I think the Tascam media may be a little more road-worhty. Plus, you can load one track with SMPTE to sync with lighting and lasers, load another track with click for performance monitoring. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uh Clem Posted October 20, 2000 Share Posted October 20, 2000 The TASCAM DA88 has a SMPTE Card option, the DA78s (new) have SMPTE on board so no waste of a track. I just completed some tracks for a performer to use live - he plans to use his Roland VS880. I put a drum submix and a bass part on a couple of CDs for him to line up and use. He can even remix and add or subtract a chorus or whatever with that setup. He can also lay in his on backing guitar or key parts as well. Seems a little more flexible than a tape system. I used DA78s to track the parts though http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif. Steve Powell - Bull Moon Digital www.bullmoondigital.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip McDonald Posted October 20, 2000 Share Posted October 20, 2000 Originally posted by alienudity@aol.com: like to have the ability to have separate "line outs" for each pre-recorded part. This when I get a guitar player sitting in, I can just mute the guitar track or harmony vocal I've been using a VS-880 live for over a year now, although I primarily use it merely as a two-track playback device (that happens to have handy faders and a digital mixer on it...). This gives me more flexibility than a DAT machine, plus I can plug my guitar directly into the mixer without having to lug a separate one around. SP/DIF I/O is convenient as well. The VS would give you the option of mixing 8 tracks live on the fly, more if you bought the 16 track version. Additionally, the built in effects can come in handy... It seems to be robust enough for live use. I carry mine around in one of those elcheapo aluminum briefcases you can buy at Walmart for $15, no problems. Guitar Lessons in Augusta Georgia: www.chipmcdonald.com Eccentric blog: https://chipmcdonaldblog.blogspot.com/ / "big ass windbag" - Bruce Swedien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakwaybellatlantic.net Posted October 20, 2000 Share Posted October 20, 2000 I mixed sound for a casino revue show that used the Roland VS-1880 for the majority of the band, just using a live piano and drums. The piano player started each number by foot-switch, and the song marker stopped it at the end, automatically. SMPTE time code was sent to the lighting board, another track was click to the drummers headphones. I was impressed by the total lack of bleed from the time code and click channels. I always had to deal with this when using 4-track analog tape. The machine was totally reliable, was set-up and struck every day, and never missed a beat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderton Posted October 20, 2000 Share Posted October 20, 2000 (The following was posted by dr. desctructo in a duplicate thread that has been deleted) I'm not familiar with either format, but it would seem to me that ADAT or the DA would be exactly what you need. Of course, it also seems like you will need a serious mix man. I was wondering, though, if hard disk would be more reliable than either of the digital tape formats. Wouldn't this open up the posibilities of automation, negating the need for a competent mix guy? Craig Anderton Educational site: http://www.craiganderton.org Music: http://www.youtube.com/thecraiganderton Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/craig_anderton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suremann Posted October 21, 2000 Share Posted October 21, 2000 yeah, but you'd have to replace him with an equally competant computer tech. We used LCS frames and Be OS to matrix 12 surround zones for our revue shows and every other day, I would have some kind of crash to deal with. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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