Allan Speers Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 OK, thanks to this forum, I know I'm looking for a direct-drive, two legged hats stand. I want to have two seperate hats next to each other, plus two kicks, so room is tight. Looks to me like there are three choices at the top: Tama Iron Cobra HH905 DW 5500TD Pearl Eliminator H2000 Any personal preferences? From the pictures, it looks like the Tama has its legs tighter than the others. that's good for space, but is it less stable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 Hmmmm.... two separate hats right next to each other? Keep in mind that they can only be as close as the radius of the largest pair of cymbals (plus some clearance), which is likely 7" or so. You need not limit yourself to stands which are sold with two legs. Any three-legged hihat stand with rotating legs (which is most of 'em nowadays) may be modified to suit your purposes. "But HOW??" Glad you asked! All you need do is carefully drill out the rivets which hold one leg in place. This frees you to get the one with the best action, or the cheapest one, or whatever suits you. But don't throw away the 'extra' leg; a couple bolts & locking nuts turn the stand right back into a three-legged stand for the future. Now if we take that a step further... if space is still an issue why not remove TWO legs from one of the stands, one leg from the other, and clamp the stands togther?! If you clamped them together at two points, it would be very stable (though I suspect you'd only need one-point clamping). Just some ideas to think about. I used to think I was Libertarian. Until I saw their platform; now I know I'm no more Libertarian than I am RepubliCrat or neoCON or Liberal or Socialist. This ain't no track meet; this is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted December 4, 2003 Share Posted December 4, 2003 I really dig the DW remote hat. It's if anything even more sensitive and obedient than the Iron Cobra not-remote. A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrummerCafe Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Originally posted by Ted Nightshade: I really dig the DW remote hat. It's if anything even more sensitive and obedient than the Iron Cobra not-remote.I've been using a Remote HiHat as my primary hihats for several years now, and just recently changed my set-up to have my Remote HiHat in the center, at the 12 O'Clock position rather than my other favorite, the 11 O'Clock position. Here's a photo: http://drummercafe.com/community/articles/fibes.jpg To read my complete article, click HERE , if you are interested. I share more photos and explain the set-up. It's not a new idea, but it is amazing how comfortable it really is. Also, I did a lot of testing and found that the Yamaha Cable/Remote HiHat to have the smoothest action. It feels the closest to a standard Hihat stand. My tests are dated, however, and I haven't really spent in time to compare the new models that are coming how. Pearl's Remote HiHat felt pretty smooth when I tried it at NAMM this Summer. Drummer Cafe - community drum & percussion forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Didn't try the Yamaha. I use a remote hat as my only hat too- it's over near the ride cymbal on the right. For a singing drummer, it's lots better than trying to sing with my arms crossed over my chest. A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Speers Posted December 5, 2003 Author Share Posted December 5, 2003 You guys just opened up a whole new can o' worms for me. As a beginning drummer, I struggle with the ride cymbal (I didn't know you were "allowed" to cross your arm over your chest!) as I prefer to use my right for the snare. So, Is there any good reason why I WOULDN'T want to put my ride cymbal on my left? Trying to gain left-right independance is a big part of the enjoyment I get from bashing away at these things, but right now I need to make solid grooves. Do you think this will be a mistake in the long run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Gervais Posted December 5, 2003 Share Posted December 5, 2003 Alan, Are you left handed? I am curious due to your comment on the right hand feel for the groove on the snare (I am by the way). If you feel more comfortable with your drums set up "backwards" then by all means play them that way . Understand that there is no "law" dictating how a kit is to be set up - what works for one won't work for another. For example - I love the setup i see Bart has - and i have tried that (i loved the idea of my hat centered - figured it would be fantastic for the groove i want in funk) however it just never worked for me. I ended up leaving my hat on the right - and adding another to my left....... so just go with what feels right to you. you can see them here (damned image wouldn't work for me): Here Rod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Speers Posted December 5, 2003 Author Share Posted December 5, 2003 I'm right handed! I starting to sense that I'm supposed to be playing snare with my left, but I just can't do it. That's probably a very good reason to force myself to do it, I guess, but as I said, I need to be making tight grooves, even if it means doing things backwards. So am I really doing it backwards? I typically cross my LEFT arm over in order to play the ride with my left hand. (unless I'm practicing, in which case it's left hand for hats and right hand for ride.) this must be some funny questions for you guys, but I'm self-taught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Allan, check out Carter Beauford's setup - left hand ride and hats. Two rides in fact. In can be done and done well, don't worry about doing it the "proper" way, the proper way is the one that works for you. p.s. check your private messages -- Rob I have the mind of a criminal genius.....I keep it in the freezer next to mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrummerCafe Posted December 6, 2003 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Bernard Purdie used to always set-up with his Ride and HiHat on the same side. His words ... "I don't want to have to move so far to get to the Ride." Allan, I think it's great that you play the way you do. Man, whatever works for you is best. It's fun to explore and experiment; don't be so hard on yourself. Drummer Cafe - community drum & percussion forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhcomp45aol.com Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 I use two Ludwig hats from the sixties. They're small, light, quick and unbreakable. Those huge jack stands they sell nowadays look impressive but they're slow and clumbsy. One stays closed all the time with 16s the other is open with 14s. It's the only way to go for double bass. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Speers Posted December 31, 2003 Author Share Posted December 31, 2003 I went with the Iron Cobra HH905. Basically because it was the only one my local dealer stocked. I figure any of the "big three" would do me fine. The Tama is really great, I couldn't be more pleased. lightning fast and smooth. It feels like your foot is attached directly to the cymbal itself. I also like the fact that the legs are physically closer together than on the other two. -And it's the least expensive of the three. It's possible that the other two might be more adjustable, I'm not sure, but I can't think of any adjustment I need to make to the Tama, so I'm a happy camper this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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