selloutrr Posted August 28, 2001 Share Posted August 28, 2001 say you have the mics, the stereo AKG, the EV the shure 57's and even a great room that leaves the fullness of the drums natural warmth but dampens the wash from the cymbals. Now the only thing standing in the way of capturing the perfect drum sound on tape ( 2" analog ) is your mics still sound flat and lifeless... I know i need to use pre amps I have 2 channels of dbx 562 tube but i like those channels more for guitar and solos what pre amps do you recommend for the drums? I would rather save and get the professional equipment then buy a bargon piece and have to up grade later on. thanks Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidereal Posted August 28, 2001 Share Posted August 28, 2001 Ideally, you'd have some quality 16-channel console of some kind. The difficult thing is getting multichannel drums tracked to tape with real quality. I mean, you're talking up to 8-10 inputs for a full kit. You could get a Mackie, but that's very average on sound. Still, many major label releases are done with Mackies. A Neve console would be beautiful and you don't necessarily need to sell the farm to get the pres in a Neve. They make a 16-channel broadcast variety. Or you could just rack up several Neve mic pres and you'll be smokin'. There's so many quality options for pres depending on how much you want to spend... ART, Manley and Neves are all great for drums. The Focusrite Red 1 is a 4-channel pre. You could stack two of those. They're beautiful and have a nice clean sound to complement the fat tube/tape combination. Simon Phillips tracks drums with Red 1's. A budget option is the Presonus DigiMax with 8 discrete non-transformer based pres. A nice lower cost unit. Built-in limiters on each channel. It all depends on how much you want to spend. This is a big subject. The key thing is to know what you're doing. You could make gravy out of pond water if you have the knowledge and/or an engineer who knows what he's doing. Don't forget the essentials of learning a room and proper mic placement. Ay yi yi.... I'll shut up now. This message has been edited by sidereal on 08-27-2001 at 11:04 PM Just for the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Poff Posted August 30, 2001 Share Posted August 30, 2001 It's tough to beat a DBX160a comp on snare. THWACKK!!! Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted September 5, 2001 Share Posted September 5, 2001 if you have a small room try to pad the reflections as much as you can and then some times two. tune your bass drum according to your play back. listening to bass drum on play back. tune till your satisfied. where you put the mic is going to make the sound right not the pre amp. does that make sense? all this equipment that is for sale is not the answer. bass drum, snare, and over head or over heads maybe hi hats. thats the the least amount of mics you can use to get the sound you want.do you know how to keep the the mics in phase? the phase issue is paramount. one mic at a time. when mics are out of phase they sound thin, or flat. the more mics you use the more phase problems you will have. bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selloutrr Posted September 10, 2001 Author Share Posted September 10, 2001 Bill that is a great idea!!! I tried it along with a simplistic eq suggestion my room is very dead but makes a great drum sound. I'm amazed how great they sound on tape. thanks for the tip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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