zeronyne Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 http://rhee.net/LDLD/0fret.jpg That's right, IT HAS A ZERO FRET! Master Luthier Dennis Galuszka of the Fender Custom Shop made 50 of these. Has anyone played a Jazz-type instrument with a zero fret? The only zero fret bass I've ever played was from Michael Tobias (MTD) and it made an appreciable difference. "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butcherNburn Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 It's hard to spot a zero fret on that pic. I must admit, it wasn't the first thing to jump out at me. If you think my playing is bad, you should hear me sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowbee Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Do the extra pickups make it twice as jazzy? Now theres three of you in a band, youre like a proper band. Youre like the policemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butcherNburn Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I see space for 2 P pickups... ummm.... If you think my playing is bad, you should hear me sing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Force Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 In Motown, the "zero Fret" is normally called the nut. Steve Force, Durham, North Carolina -------- My Professional Websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Originally posted by zeronyne: Anyone notice anything weird about this Jazz? Do they still make that color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebrownbass Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Originally posted by butcherNburn: I see space for 2 P pickups... ummm.... Funniest thing I've read today. "Let's raise the level of this conversation" -- Jeremy Cohen, in the Picasso Thread. Still spendin' that political capital far faster than I can earn it...stretched way out on a limb here and looking for a better interest rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenstrum Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 OK, you'll have to forgive my ignorance but what the crap is a Zero Fret and where am I supposed to be seeing it? Tenstrum "Paranoid? Probably. But just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face." Harry Dresden, Storm Front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenthemimic Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Tenstrum, look one space down from the nut... Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubby Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 thier are lots of nuts out here so be more precise ricky payne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Brown Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Nut: the place near the headstock that hold the strings in place. Probably made of bone in this instance. The you know where is the first fret? The second? Work backwards and you'll see a fret in the zero spot. Yep. I'm the other voice in the head of davebrownbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenthemimic Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Dave, Thanks man, I couldn't of done it without you! Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky McDougall Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I assume you are talking about what looks like a metal fret that is against the nut. I'm not sure what I am seeing in this picture but it does look like a metal "0" fret. You said 50 of these were made?? Do the strings touch the fret? If they do not then I can only imagine it is totally useless. If the strings do touch it, why not just use a metal nut. I'm confused, someone help me out here. Rocky "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb, voting on what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb, contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeronyne Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share Posted October 11, 2006 Sorry, folks, I have been on this board for so long that I forget that not everyone has seen something like this. A zero fret is placed just before the nut so that open strings sound the same as fretted ones. You can't use a metal nut as a substitute because the contact area within a slot is different (hence also tonally different) than that of a fret to string. On some basses (and many guitars) it makes a huge difference. I have actually had experience on a guitar that previously did not have a zero fret. the notes, especially with overdrive, sounded VERY different in terms of open string vs. fretted. After the addition of a zero fret, the difference was negligible. Here's a much better picture of the zero fret on that bass: http://rhee.net/LDLD/0fret2.jpg "For instance" is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Force Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Oh, NOW I see it (It is hard getting old..) (I was gonna comment about the tounges but everything I typed sounded nasty so..I'll leave that for another music-related board... ) Steve Force, Durham, North Carolina -------- My Professional Websites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Originally posted by Dave Brown: The you know where is the first fret? The second? Work backwards and you'll see a fret in the zero spot. I don't see what it is ya'll are talking about what I see looks like a bone nut. If you smell something stinking, it's juz me, I'm funky like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 If you look closely you can see a fret right next to the bone nut. I've never understood the concept of a zero fret. I think it is supposed to make the open strings sound more like the fretted strings. It seems that it would make adjusting string height at the nut impossible. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenstrum Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 OK, I see what you are tlaking about now. It was so obvious that I completely overlooked it. So it's supposed to help open strings sound like fretted strings????? Why? I'm with Jeremy, as I don't see the point in it. Tenstrum "Paranoid? Probably. But just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face." Harry Dresden, Storm Front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky McDougall Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I would be more interested to find out if that is really his tongue. Man, that is longer than my............Nevermind. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb, voting on what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb, contesting the vote." Benjamin Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 I think that is Gene's tounge photoshoped! hehehe Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke73 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 That is a very long tongue... http://www.myspace.com/twoshortrocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowbee Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 His?? They both look like ladies to me?? Now theres three of you in a band, youre like a proper band. Youre like the policemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc taz Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Originally posted by Rowbee: His?? They both look like ladies to me?? Perhaps these ladies are his long lost cousins? sevenstring.org profile my flickr page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemtone Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 09, Have you noticed an appreciable difference or all-around change to the intonation from having a perfectly level zero fret? Does it change the brightness of the open string, as it's contact point is much smaller than going thru a nut? I've wondered about the sound of a zero-fret on an acoustic guitar, but never had the chance to try one out. This looks sweet, however. Play. Just play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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