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Wah...is a pedal the only way?


SteveC

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Is a wah-wah pedal the only way to get a good wah? I've tried the Boss AW-3 and it was OK but not what I was looking for. There are others - Pod, etc. - tried them. Not really doing it for me.

 

I was trying to get by with simple and small, but I'm beginning to think a real wah pedal is the only way to get a good wah-wah sound.

 

Any thoughts?

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Its not gonna help you at all, but I thought it was pretty darn cool for the spandex wearing gizmo freak inside all of us that simply must have 4 wah controls on a stage at all times.

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A good wah sound is like in the ear of the beholder or behearer or something, and may just depend on the situation.

 

The moogerfooger low pass envelop filter can be set up so that it does it's thing with a volume pedal (and the evelop set to 0, so that the pedal does the work). Being "low-pass" and not band pass it will sound different but for bass I think the low pass is better. With all of the parameters tweakable via volume pedal or Control voltage it (and all the moogerfooger) can do amazing tricks.

 

If you can check one out, I highly reccommend it.

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Wah or Envelope Filter?

 

I've yet to find a bass wah that I'm happy with. There are plenty of decent envelope filters out there, my squeeze being the EBS BassIQ. I'm not sure if the Boss AW-3 falls into the decent category - the Moogerfooger, Meatball, Mutron and Q-Tron are all solid alternatives though some are more brain-melting than others (step forward Mr Meatball).

 

The fewer knobs on a pedal, the better IMO. Tweakability is an albatross - that's what your hands and bass are for. I want pedals to be simple enough that I can play them (and I mean play, really understand what they're doing) without having to spend as much time practicing them as I have done bass.

 

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A wah wah pedal is not the greatest effect for a bass. A wah pedal is basically a filter that you sweep by pressing the pedal. When you get to the bottom of the pedal you have filtered out all the lows.

 

You might have to split your signal so that you still have some lows somewhere.

 

I've never used a Bass specific wah, some companies make them. I'm assuming that either there is a blend knob, different filter values, or both.

 

Some multi-effects units can be programmed to act as wah pedals if an expression pedal is used.

 

Can you think of any recordings that use bass wah?

 

There aren't very many. I think there might be a reason.

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My favorite choice for your application has been the EHX Doctor Q (Many of us from 70's know how to pull the back off and tweak it for bass use.) The q-Tron isn't bad for that envelope follower effect either.

 

Now if you want a "wah" sound and you aren't afraid of your buds pickin' at ya', find a Zoom 505 (guitar) or a 506 (bass) and try the wah effect on either one of those on your bass. I've got a patch that I got from the 505 patch archives that triggers a lot more accurately than the factory patch. :)

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Try "On the Silent Wings of Freedom" from Yes (the oft-overlooked Tormato album); I think that's a pretty cool wah sound Chris Squire's getting.

I use the 105Q; quite a lot. Sometimes just for a boost, sometimes slow (in front of a chorus) for an almost phasing sound; sometimes just for funky wah-wah fun. The variable q selector is great, so that I don't loose all of the low end. The only filter I've really used was the EH Bass Balls, and IMHO that was one of the cheesiest sounds I'd ever had.

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I'm telling you man, the moogerfooger Lowpass is it. I've not played an old Mutron, but I've played the HAZ version, the Q-Trons, a Boss envelop filter, a Menatone envelop filter, and a few others but the mooger is the best for bass that I've used by far.

 

It can be "wah'ed" with a volume pedal, it can be used without the volume pedal and let the envelop do it.

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