doug osborne Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 My local California State Senator Kevin Murray has had a bill signed into law by Gov. Schawartzenneger which is a great step towards helping musicians get money they are owed by record companies. The bill allows those under contract to record companies to audit sales to confirm they have received proper royalty payments. Seems simple enough, but until now, this has been at the sole discretion of the record company unless you sue, and most courts in CA would not take these cases. Now, you can have an approved auditor, including an auditor working on contingency, go through the books and see if you have been paid properly. CA SB 1034 BILL NUMBER: SB 1034 SB 1034, Murray. Recording contracts: royalties. Existing law prescribes the rights of parties to contracts for various types of services. This bill would authorize a royalty recipient under a contract for the production of sound recordings, notwithstanding any provision of the contract, to audit the books and records of a royalty reporting party, as defined, to determine if the royalty recipient has earned all of the royalties due pursuant to the contract. The bill would require the royalty recipient to retain a qualified royalty auditor to conduct the audit ... Doug Osborne Music on Bandcamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDM Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 That's a substantial concession for them to make... they must be getting desperate. DJDM.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDM Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Or perhaps the economic toll really has been worse than realized and they've simply lost their lobbing power in CA? Interesting... DJDM.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosh Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Hey Dawg,...any explanation why none of the audiostreams on your website seem to work on my winamp player? Fan, nu pissar jag taggtråd igen. Jag skulle inte satt på räpan. http://www.bushcollectors.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJDM Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Originally posted by boosh: Hey Dawg,...any explanation why none of the audiostreams on your website seem to work on my winamp player?There is a solution but I don't want to hijack the thread here. I'll PM ya. DJDM.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug osborne Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 Hey Dawg,...any explanation why none of the audiostreams on your website seem to work on my winamp player? There is a solution but I don't want to hijack the thread here. I'll PM ya. Thanks! It's only because I'm an idiot . I have tweaked the mixes, but I haven't fixed the links. Only so much time with day job, kids, girlfriend, etc.... Doug Osborne Music on Bandcamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug osborne Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 Originally posted by DJDM: Or perhaps the economic toll really has been worse than realized and they've simply lost their lobbing power in CA? Interesting...It started with the flurry of testimony in Sacramento a few years ago by some big names California Lawmaker Wants Music Contract Law Repealed Jan 9, 2002 12:00 PM A California state senator on Monday launched a legislative assault against the music industry on behalf of recording stars such as Courtney Love and Don Henley who have been crusading to free artists from record company control. California State Sen. Kevin Murray (D-Culver City) introduced the bill this month to repeal an amendment won by the music industry in 1987 that keeps recording artists tied to personal contracts longer than talent in other industries such as film and television. Doug Osborne Music on Bandcamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ani Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Do they have another very deceptive law written into the fine print that would give more authority for the state to change laws without voter consent? Whenever a law is TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, I'd be looking at the fine print to find out what rights citizens are signing away. Not saying it's what happened out your way, but here in Kansas City; the politicians promised that the moneys earned from casinos would be used to place money into the school districts as an incintive to to gain voter approval to allow the casinos in. After a few years passed and no funds had been released, a new bill was presented to the public to "RELEASE" the funds for the schools. However, in the same bill that was written to release the casino tax earnings for the schools, they also wrote that a 7/8 vote among members of the house would allow them to change the laws without voter consent. Of course the bill was voted down and the money out of the casinos NEVER made it to the schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug osborne Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 Whenever a law is TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, I'd be looking at the fine print to find out what rights citizens are signing away. As I read this law, I see no mechanism to actuallly get the label to pay the musician. I guess lawsuits will be flying after the audits. Many, many recording contracts are signed in CA. Most recording contracts have not-very-fine-print that states audits will be done by the label at their discretion. That is what has been addressed with this law. Doug Osborne Music on Bandcamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duddits Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I'm very skeptical that this type of audit would be successful. The record companies can represent their gross vs. net to the auditor to shroud actual profit, similar to Hollywood-style accounting. Furthermore, the cost of a genuine audit of one of these companies would be prohibitive to the artist. The audit would cost more than any artist could ever hope to get. Dooby Dooby Doo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennyf Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Originally posted by Duddits: I'm very skeptical that this type of audit would be successful. The record companies can represent their gross vs. net to the auditor to shroud actual profit, similar to Hollywood-style accounting. Furthermore, the cost of a genuine audit of one of these companies would be prohibitive to the artist. The audit would cost more than any artist could ever hope to get.Exactly the first thoughts to cross my mind. Words to live by in the world of business: "Figures lie, and liars figure." band link: bluepearlband.com music, lessons, gig schedules at dennyf.com STURGEON'S LAW --98% of everything is bullshit. My Unitarian Jihad Name is: The Jackhammer of Love and Mercy. Get yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 The bill allows those under contract to record companies to audit sales to confirm they have received proper royalty payments. Seems simple enough, but until now, this has been at the sole discretion of the record company unless you sue, and most courts in CA would not take these cases. That's always been possible - assuming you had a good attorney and were savvy in your contract negotiations. I would never suggest that anyone sign a contract without an audit clause in it. Of course, the downside to auditing is the potential for later retaliation aganst you by the label. Publishers and writers have been able to audit record companies over mechanical royalties for years... but again, the downside of doing so is potential retaliation. Those publishers who are affiliated with the Harry Fox agency in NY can have Fox do the audit on their behalf... with the added bonus of Fox will do so for several people they represent all at once, and not just one single publisher - thus keeping the identity of the "source" of the audit anonymous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ani Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 Just out of curiosity; is the Fox news channel associated with the Harry Fox Agency? Never thought about that until now. Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip OKeefe Posted July 26, 2004 Share Posted July 26, 2004 There's no affiliation Ani. In 1927, the National Music Publisher's Association established HFA to act as an information source, clearinghouse and monitoring service for licensing musical copyrights. Since its founding, HFA has provided efficient and convenient services for publishers, licensees, and a broad spectrum of music users. With its current level of publisher representation, HFA licenses the largest percentage of the mechanical and digital uses of music in the United States on CDs, digital services, records, tapes and imported phonorecords. From http://www.harryfox.com/about.html (Edited for a type, and to add that "HFA" is short for the Harry Fox Agency. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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