ElmerJFudd Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 [video:youtube] https://www.moogmusic.com/products/claravox-centennial Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Very good, thanks. However, I can't help noticing that the original Theremin sounded much better (although Clara Rockmore's performance could have something to do with it...). [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Both sound great to me. Not sure what I would judge as better with a true blindfold test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphollis Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 I have to agree, the tone in the older recording is deeper and more exotic. Looks like a fun toy, not sure how I'd use it with a band other than maybe a cameo role and the odd line here and there. Quote Want to make your band better? Check out "A Guide To Starting (Or Improving!) Your Own Local Band" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 There"s still some magic in the sound quality of old recordings, even when they get digitized, too. Quote Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GRollins Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 ...not sure how I'd use it with a band other than maybe a cameo role and the odd line here and there. Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin got a lot of mileage out of a theremin during live performances. You don't wait for opportunities to use an unusual instrument in concert, you create them. Grey Quote I'm not interested in someone's ability to program. I'm interested in their ability to compose and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esfusion Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Sad to say, the only outlet for my theremin is serenading my neighborhood and terrorizing trick-or-treators every Halloween with a variety of alien licks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamanczarek Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I got to play with Tim Rockmore on New Years Eve. He is a guitarist who is related to Clara. He was surprised that I knew who she was. Tim was filling in with an 80s band who I've played with on occasion and he has his own band. [video:youtube] [video:youtube] Quote C3/122, M102A, Vox V301H, Farfisa Compact, Gibson G101, GEM P, RMI 300A, Piano Bass, Pianet , Prophet 5 rev. 2, Pro-One, Matrix 12, OB8, Korg MS20, Jupiter 6, Juno 60, PX-5S, Nord Stage 3 Compact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GovernorSilver Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Use for it? I'd buy it just to display in my living room as a work of art, as Dave's posted photo illustrates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stokely Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Ironically, I just picked up a Theremin Kontakt instrument on sale Having a blast with it, it found a place on a campy project I'm working on with some old bandmates, redoing songs written when we were 14-16 years old... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksoper Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 The video is stunning on my 4k oled. The Moog video team has really upped their game. Beautiful performance from both players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Beautiful instrument and video indeed. Gardens are spectacular - reminiscent of Versailles but different I think. Anybody know where this is? ð Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Apart from the timbre, (which may have more less high frequency roll-off and even-order distortion in the modern recording) it seems Clara Rockmore"s vibrato is wider, looser and romantic? While the young performer is very precise and clean? I was secretly hoping for a more florid sound when he went down to the low aflat, but it was not to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piktor Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Does anyone know much about how performance concepts related to vibrato speed and depth have changed over the past one hundred years? The older Theremin performance, as beautiful as it is, reminds me of the way that some of the older saxophonists used to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Beautiful instrument and video indeed. Gardens are spectacular - reminiscent of Versailles but different I think. Anybody know where this is? ð I havent been to Versailles in 30 years but I'll see if I can locate this for you. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalman Stern Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Moog site says Château de Vaux-le-Vicomte -- https://vaux-le-vicomte.com/en/ . Anyone have experience using a theremin as a CV input to a synth or otherwise in use with a synthesizer or effects? How broad a range of sound can one get? Is it sensible to layer synth sounds on top of the theremin? I'm guessing with MIDI out, the Claravox effectively has some sort of gating support built-in. [EDIT: It looks like gating is pretty straight forward in that one touches the volume antenna and that signal goes to zero. Hopefully they run that out directly as a CV and a low threshold makes a gate. Would be even better if it detects touch explicitly I suppose.] -Z- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalman Stern Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Lot's more from Grégoire Blanc that is worth watching, including this: [video:youtube] -Z- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zalman Stern Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 They also have a video that is a lot more what I'd expect from Moog... [video:youtube] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doerfler Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Moog site says Château de Vaux-le-Vicomte -- https://vaux-le-vicomte.com/en/ . OK, so a 1 hour drive from Versailes. Nice detective work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Moog site says Château de Vaux-le-Vicomte -- https://vaux-le-vicomte.com/en/ . OK, so a 1 hour drive from Versailes. Nice detective work. ð Thank you. Architecture commissioned by the man who managed Louis XIV"s finances? ð The influence shows. Spectacular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 [EDIT: It looks like gating is pretty straight forward in that one touches the volume antenna and that signal goes to zero. Hopefully they run that out directly as a CV and a low threshold makes a gate. Would be even better if it detects touch explicitly I suppose.] -Z- I like where you are going with this. Perhaps some LFO mod or ring mod on a pedal? I would need a duffer"s mode. Something extremely forgiving. I think the digital theremin had something like that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Now that I live in Durham NC, I'm thinking about a trip to the Moog Factory in Asheville if I can get a tour of the Theremin manufacturing area. :-) Quote Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I was all set to buy a Moog Etherwave Plus Theremin tonight, until I noticed it's been discontinued -- although it is still listed at Moog's website. Then I found this scary link: https://www.hototin.com/products/theremin-plus-etherwave-moog It HAS to be a scam, at that price, and going to the vendor's main webpage and searching or traversing the site does NOT find any Moog or Theremin hits. At Reverb.com, people are charging $900 or more for these, or $600 or a bit more for the black versions sans wood. What did they cost originally? Also on Reverb.com, people are asking almost $2300 for the new 100th anniversary edition, even though it is priced at a bit over $1400 at Sweetwater and other sites. I actually need some sort of live Theremin pretty soon, is the thing, and am not keen on a plastic Theremini -- though it could be a placeholder, and I could turn off Auto-tune. I may also run into an issue with AC adapters, as it's a non-standard one and "only one left" when looking at alternative sources. The older bag is nicer than the new one too. If I'd have to pay $900 or more for the Etherwave Plus, I'd just as soon go a few hundred more and pre-order the 100th anniversary edition, which is closer to the old Pro model. Having C/V control is pretty important to me in a Theremin, as I own a Moog Voyager. It's a match made in Heaven, or at least someplace in Outer Space. :-) Quote Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 There's another option for Theremin that I wasn't aware of until last night, from a small company that calls theirs B3 Theremins. Most of their modules are cheap but don't have full control of dynamics alongside pitch, but also I didn't care for what I heard in demos. But then, I also was grossed out by the Jimmy Page demo; it just seemed like so much wanking. His isn't a Moog either. The Theremin Pro still sounds the best to me but goes for $8K on Reverb.com. Don't know if it was that expensive to begin with or not. Quote Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I've written my Sweetwater rep to see if he has any info on whether Etherwave Plus is out of production temporarily or permanently. It's still on the Moog site, but no authorized sellers have it and all say "discontinued". I do think I'd appreciate the extra features of the Claravox, and if the Etherwave Plus is $900 or thereabouts anyway (in wood vs. black all-metal housing), it's worth the extra few hundred for the new features. But then, there's the stand as well... Quote Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Schmieder Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I joined the Claravox pre-order list today after confirming with my Sweetwater rep that the Etherwave series has definitely been canceled. I figure a Theremin is a good long-term investment anyway; their value increases over time, and if we become slightly disabled as we get older, it might become the only instrument we can still play. Quote Eugenio Upright, 60th Anniversary P-Bass, USA Geddy Lee J-Bass, Yamaha BBP35, D'angelico SS Bari, EXL1, Select Strat, 70th Anniversary Esquire, LP 57, Eastman T486, T64, Ibanez PM2, Hammond XK4, Moog Voyager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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