Ensenada Guide Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Recommend a good (better if it was 88 keys) to use things like Kontak,live etc I saw the native intruments 61 key controller but had few things to tweek live.. Whats up with that? I dont want to use a mouse much live www.ensenadatourguide.com https://www.facebook.com/ldstourguide Will give tours for Keyboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 The Physis controller. But this could be overkill. Having options is good. "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 You must always share your budget, my friend. Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensenada Guide Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 well maybe spend around 2k but if i really really really like it and need it then no more than 4k www.ensenadatourguide.com https://www.facebook.com/ldstourguide Will give tours for Keyboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Well shoot, man. Then go check out that Physis K4. http://www.viscountinstruments.com/physis-piano-k4-83.html A few dealers in the US carry it for $1895. Keyboard 88 Hammer-Action Weighted keys with Aftertouch Controls - 1 x Audio Volume Slider - 8 x lighted Zone Buttons - 4 x lighted Bank Buttons of 27 full-assignable Controls - 9 x full-360° Rotary Controls ( with 4 Banks for 36 pots in total ) - 9 x long-throw 45mm Slider Controls ( with 4 Banks for 36 pots in total ) - 9 x lighted Button Controls ( with 4 Banks for 36 switches in total ) - 3 x 180° Wheels ( 1 Wheel with 90° centered position ) - 8 x full-assignable potentiometric Pedal Inputs - Fast entry Alpha-Numeric Keypad - 5 x dedicated Sequencer Remote Buttons for Midi Machine Control commands - 1 x dedicated Transpose Button for fast changes of key - 4.3" Multicolor Graphic LCD Display (480*272 dots) Memories - 128 full-programmable Performances - 4 Indipendent Scenes for each Performance - 8 Midi Zones + 4 Controller Banks for each Scene - Selectable/Editable Velocity Curves + Velocity Ranges and Key Ranges for each Zone Connections - 8 x Indipendent Midi Outputs - 2 x Indipendent Midi Inputs - 4 x Host USB Ports - 1 x Device USB Port (Windows XP ® / Windows 7 ® and Mac OS X ® compatible) - 2 x Audio Outputs ( L/R unbalanced 1/4" jack ) - 1 x Headphones Output ( stereo 1/4" jack ) Dimensions (WxHxD) mm 1287 x 134 x 355 - 50.7""x 5.3" x 14.0" Colours / Finishes Blue Weight Kg 19,8 / Lbs 43 Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Coda Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Physis K4 or K5, depending on which action you prefer,- for hardware modules and software ! The MIDI features are the same in K4 and K5. A.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensenada Guide Posted July 14, 2016 Author Share Posted July 14, 2016 Darn now where to try out that k4? www.ensenadatourguide.com https://www.facebook.com/ldstourguide Will give tours for Keyboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorayM Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 If you're into Kontakt, the Kontrol S88 is surely worth a look. Not sure how well it plays with Live though. Cephid - Progressive Electro Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Physis K4 or K5, depending on which action you prefer I wish there were a K5 with something like a Fatar TP9 (i.e. a non hammer action option), that might be an ideal 2nd-tier board for me. There are so few (like, no) 73/76 un/semi-weighted boards with aftertouch and good MIDI controller functions. Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardware Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Get the DJ Tech Rubber Knobs and Caps too. They are great when your performing. screengrab image hosting gif Magnus C350 + FMR RNP + Realistic Unisphere Mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensenada Guide Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 I dont understand why would Native Instruments put so little things to move in real time with real hardware .. WOw you have some nice toys there www.ensenadatourguide.com https://www.facebook.com/ldstourguide Will give tours for Keyboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I dont understand why would Native Instruments put so little things to move in real time with real hardware .. ...no buttons for instant preset recall, no sliders for drawbar control... Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensenada Guide Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 I dont understand why would Native Instruments put so little things to move in real time with real hardware .. ...no buttons for instant preset recall, no sliders for drawbar control... Yea it makes not cents at all why put a software controller with out all that ! www.ensenadatourguide.com https://www.facebook.com/ldstourguide Will give tours for Keyboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensenada Guide Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 Dont see the K4 listed for testing on guitar center or sam ash www.ensenadatourguide.com https://www.facebook.com/ldstourguide Will give tours for Keyboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmerJFudd Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 kraftmusic.com carries it. Answering your question. I don't work for Kraft and have no vested interest in your selection of dealer or make/model. Yamaha CP88, Casio PX-560 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardware Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Tell them you don't want the package of junk. Just the controller, 1900 USD. Also the support from being in Italy is excellent. I screwed up the OS one night by loading midget porn collection by mistake into internal storage area, screwed it up. Sent it for free to a repair guy in Wisconsin, had it back 10 days later. Had to use a BCF 2000, MIDI Solutions F8, Router and Quadra Merge plus a Casio Privia PX-3S. That's what was needed to get halfway close to the K4. Magnus C350 + FMR RNP + Realistic Unisphere Mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorayM Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I dont understand why would Native Instruments put so little things to move in real time with real hardware .. ...no buttons for instant preset recall, no sliders for drawbar control... Fair enough no buttons, but outside of this forum drawbar sliders are pretty niche. Cephid - Progressive Electro Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Fair enough no buttons, but outside of this forum drawbar sliders are pretty niche. Perhaps, but IMO it does prevent it from being the kind of "universal" keyboard controller it purports to be... not that any controller will ever have every last feature, but drawbar organ is something of a staple of a lot of keyboard oriented music, and Native Instruments even has their own "Vintage Organ" software pack, which their own controller does not then properly support. (Though I suppose you could extrapolate from that and say, they have their "Monark" Minimoog emulation, and there aren't enough knobs to create a full control panel for that, either...) Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEB Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I've been using these Rubbermaid/Gator cases because Kraft bundles them with their 88. They have been working out OK. If I don't get them from KRaft my Sweetwater guy matches the deal but it looks like your are paying a higher premium for the case now but it is still somewhat of a price break. Both my S90XS and Kronos 2-88 came with these cases. http://www.kraftmusic.com/physis-piano-k-4-88-key-midi-controller-stage-kit.html When I pull the trigger on the JP-80 I will get the same case. But the FA-06 is actually working pretty good for me right now. http://www.kraftmusic.com/roland-jupiter-80-stage-synthesizer-stage-kit.html "It doesn't have to be difficult to be cool" - Mitch Towne "A great musician can bring tears to your eyes!!! So can a auto Mechanic." - Stokes Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RABid Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I would not want to use NI Kontrol live because of the ribbons used for pitch bend and modulation. I have the Kontrol 61 and never use it because of that. My suggestion would be a decent ROMpler or stage piano. They make really good controllers and provide sound backup of the computer goes down. This post edited for speling. My Sweetwater Gear Exchange Page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xKnuckles Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 http://prettyfluffy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/248588516_DWiOkewm_c-e1317592041914.jpg "Turn your fingers into a dust rag and keep them keys clean!" Bluzeyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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