Jonathan Hughes Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I'm using Logic X, and my Little Phatty is occasionally (every few minutes) sending out some kind of MIDI command that's causing Logic to play (or if a track is record-enabled, it will start recording). I've used a MIDI monitor program, and it shows some random pitch bend and mod wheel signals coming out, but those should cause Logic to start playing or recording. I've tried two different MIDI interfaces, thinking that maybe the interface itself was generating the commands, but I get the same problem with both. Does anyone have any idea what signal the Little Phatty could be sending out? thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulceLabs.com Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Does the Phatty have an arppeggiator? Sometimes those can send a "start" command.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Hughes Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 It does, but it's not on. But your idea made me think to turn off the sending of program changes. We'll see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Hughes Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 Here's another weird thing I just discovered. If I move the pitch bend wheel on the Little Phatty, Logic starts recording. If I move the pitch bend paddle on my JP-8000, nothing happens. So there are kind of two issues: why is the Little Phatty occasionally spitting out pitch bend data, and why is Logic interpreting that data as a command to start recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 What does your MIDI monitor report? Is the Phatty just sending pitch bend or is there another command that's being sent with it that's not on the JP? BTW, I think you should be able to fix this within Logic. It's crazy powerful with what it can do with MIDI. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Hughes Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 The midi monitor just shows pitch wheel data (usually a value of 0 or 5). My initial post that said it was also sending out mod wheel data appears to be incorrect. The fact that the Little Phatty is occasionally sending out pitch bend data isn;t a huge deal. But the fact that Logic is interpreting it as a signal to start recording is bizarre. I can probably figure out how to filter the data in Logic, but then I'd think I'd be unable to use the pitch wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Muscara Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 It is strange that if two devices send pitch bend data to Logic but one seems to trigger something besides pitch bend as well. The only other thing I can think of is if it might have to do with the MIDI channel. "I'm so crazy, I don't know this is impossible! Hoo hoo!" - Daffy Duck "The good news is that once you start piano you never have to worry about getting laid again. More time to practice!" - MOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Hughes Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 Ahhh, interesting. Although they're both sending on channel one. I'll try setting the patty to a different channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADino Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 There is an update that may cover this, not sure but worth a try. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203718 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogman1 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hey Jonathan, Install Midi Monitor and you'll be able to see all of the messages coming from the Phatty. It's free, and a great little utility! Here's the website: http://www.snoize.com/MIDIMonitor/ Good Luck! Tom Tom Nord Electro 5D, Modal Cobalt 8, Yamaha upright piano, numerous plug-ins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Hughes Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hi Tom, That's the MIDI monitor I've been using, and according to it, the LP is only sending out pitchbend data. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogman1 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Hmmm...I was in the studio recently and they had a Sub37. It was driving us crazy until we saw it was sending out a stray LFO message, and arpeggiator. Make sure that there are no things sneaking through! (although I'm sure you've already checked it!) Good luck! Tom Nord Electro 5D, Modal Cobalt 8, Yamaha upright piano, numerous plug-ins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Hughes Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 The only thing that's sneaking through (at least according to the midi monitor) are the pitch bend signals. They're pretty sporadic, so it wouldn't be a huge issue except that Logic is somehow interpreting them as a signal start recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 You say you're using a MIDI interface; I know the LP Stage II has USB MIDI, does the original? If so, why aren't you using that? Have you tried that? Also, be certain that the Logic MIDI track display isn't filtering out / hiding some types of MIDI data; the MIDI Monitor app you tried might be doing the same thing. Very often things like Active Sensing and SysEx will be hidden by default to make it easier to see note & other performance data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Hughes Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 Good point, I haven't tried using USB MIDI. I'll try that. Thanks! MIDI Monitor does allow you to filter things (oddly enough by UNchecking a box), but all the boxes are check, so I assume nothing is being hidden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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