Chewbubba Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Back in mid-September, I was onstage and with only a few minutes before start time, I pulled the battery out of my Ibanez SR1000, and popped a new one in. A few minutes later, the bass died and there was a distinct "burning plastic" smell. Apparently I put the battery in backwards and fried some stuff. I sent it off to an electronics shop 75 miles away that works on gear for a local guitar shop, got it back a few weeks later and all seemed fine-ish. Little things would happend, like occasionally the signal would drop, or the volume would be low, but I never could determine if it was a dirty amp, bad cord, or the bass. Fast-forward to today. Grabbed the bass for the last tune and ... nothing. I unplugged and replugged everything, and still nothing. So I Milli-Vanillied it through the song. Afterward, I hooked up a different bass, and it worked fine, so I hooked mine back up. Mine worked, but the volume was low, and then kept dropping until there was nothing. Sounds like the battery, but I just replaced the battery when I got the bass back in October. Frustrated and unsure of what the next step should be. Suggestions? A stiffy somewhere in the city sewer system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Dan Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Usually they put a diode wired backwards across the battery so that if you reverse polarity, it shorts and drains the battery rather than damage the electronics. Sounds like first time around you may have fried that diode. If the replacement isn't up to spec, it could be draining your battery when hooked up the right way. Specs to look at would be the reverse breakdown voltage. Dan Acoustic/Electric stringed instruments ranging from 4 to 230 strings, hammered, picked, fingered, slapped, and plucked. Analog and Digital Electronic instruments, reeds, and throat/mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcadmus Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I know on my Carvin basses, if you put in a new battery with the bass plugged in it could fry the pre-amp. Don't know if that's the case with my current basses or yours, but I never take the chance. "Tours widely in the southwestern tip of Kentucky" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basshappi Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 This is exactly the kind of reasons that I prefer passive electronics. At this point it seems as if you might need to replace the preamp altogether. If you cannot get an exact replacement from Ibanez you could use an aftermarket brand, there are several very good ones available. Nothing is as it seems but everything is exactly what it is - B. Banzai Life is what happens while you are busy playing in bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu Fhtagn Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Depends. I have three basses that have active electronics and gig regularly with two of the (Peavy Millenium V and the NS CL-4). It requires a little bit of hand holding sometimes, but I love the tonal control I get from an active pre-amp, and when you are sitting in or filling in and they want to run you into the PA (i.e., my blues gigs), the active electronics allow you to skip all of that direct box stuff. That said, I have no idea what went wrong. I know the actives in my AEB10BK die after about 40 minutes of playing, so I don't trust Ibenez active electronics as a rule. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbubba Posted November 10, 2014 Author Share Posted November 10, 2014 Until all of this mess, a battery would last me 5 months or more, and even then I would not experience any volume drop off or anything, I would just remember to replace it and go on with life. A stiffy somewhere in the city sewer system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul K Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I'm freaked on what kind of battery connection would let you hook one up the wrong way. Things are just the way they are, and they're only going to get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu Fhtagn Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 My Ibanez takes a couple of AA. Cbubba has an Ibanez. Never states that it's a 9VDC system. Car battery? Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul K Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Ha! I've never seen a 3 volt preamp. So is the system passive pickups with an active preamp (like EMG Select), or are the pickups active a la the more expensive regular EMG? If the latter, then the pickups will have to be shitcanned also if the preamp can't be fixed. If the former, then I'd bypass the electronics and go with an outboard preamp if your tone can't be achieved via the amp knobs. Things are just the way they are, and they're only going to get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbubba Posted November 22, 2014 Author Share Posted November 22, 2014 Yes, it's a 9volt. This spot plus no glasses lead to the disaster... A stiffy somewhere in the city sewer system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul K Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 That is just wrong. Things are just the way they are, and they're only going to get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu Fhtagn Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Well, I guess it's possible to but a 9V battery in backwards. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbubba Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 I've been too chicken to actually let a battery run dead again, instead I've been spending a mint in batteries... A stiffy somewhere in the city sewer system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenfxj Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Here's the solution I came up with for my two main basses. http://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt232/kenfxj/a1_zps207036e6.jpghttp://i615.photobucket.com/albums/tt232/kenfxj/a2_zpsdcaa15f3.jpg Push the button Frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Invisible battery compartments? Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu Fhtagn Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 They are on the side. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele C. Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I have a Yamaha BB 614F and I change the battery more or less every year. I write the date on the battery and check voltage once in a while. If it drops below 8V I change it. By the way, the preamp in this medium price Yamaha is fully discrete components, I expected the usual couple of op amps instead of transistors, capacitors and resistors. Oh, and Ken, nice basses indeed. -- Michele Costabile (http://proxybar.net) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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