rockkeys Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Yamaha offers so many types of graded hammer action...anyone know which one is considered top of the line? Note: I'm not just limiting myself to stage pianos, but all of the digitals being offered. (i.e. clavinova, modus, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADino Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Im not sure, but to hazard a guess, I would say the action on the CP-1 n CP-5. The 5 was fantastic IMHO, recently tried an MOX8, not to thrilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AnotherScott Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 I haven't played one, but I assume their best action is the one in the AvantGrand N3. The MOX8 is their bottom of the line weighted action. The CP5 is much better. It's not graded, though. (Not that I think that much matters.) Although not up to date with the newest models, there is a good video about different graded actions on the yamaha web site at http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Multimedia/CP_SpecChart_REV1.swf Click the icon at the bottom of the Action Type column to view the video. Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non ce futuro Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 The best is the action on Avantgrand, it's a digital piano but the keyboard is a real grand piano keyboard (N3 have ivorite for the key covering, as in grand pianos). N2 and N1 has the same keyboard but with synthetic ivory. Then for the mortals, the best is the action on Yamaha CLP-470 & 480: natural wood, linear-graded hammer. This keyboard have a wooden GH3 keyboard, synthetic ivory for keytops, and the linear graded hammer meaning that each one of the 88 keys is balanced differently, as opposed to "zones" (what all the other DP have). GH3 keyboards (no natural wood) would be the best after that, followed by GH (graded hammer) and GHS (graded hammer standard). This is in terms of being the most accurate emulation of a real grand piano, as stated by Yamaha. The stage pianos have different adaptations of this keyboards. CP1 has also Natural Wood (NW stage), but not balanced, CP5 has NW stage balanced, and so on. I played them all, and IMHO, the best one is on the CLP-470 or CP5, but the CP5 action seems a bit soft for my playing, so I prefer the action on CLP-470 & 480. Another good one is the P-155, has the GH keyboard, but very well "tuned", so I really like its action. As always, it's better to try them, because I found differencies between DPs that has the same technology. For instance, I found clp-470 a bit more confortable than clp-480 (but loved both) although they both have the exact same keyboard... bottom to top actions will be: GHS - GH - GH3 - NW - NW linear graded hammer - AVG n1 and N2 - AVG N3 of course, the N3 is the best of all, amazing keyboard, but specially amazing sound! cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockkeys Posted October 8, 2011 Author Share Posted October 8, 2011 Thanks...this helps big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherScott Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 CP1 has also Natural Wood (NW stage), but not balanced, CP5 has NW stage balanced For clarification, my understanding is that balanced means non-graded. Maybe this is the best place for a shameless plug! Our now not-so-new new video at https://youtu.be/3ZRC3b4p4EI is a 40 minute adaptation of T. S. Eliot's "Prufrock" - check it out! And hopefully I'll have something new here this year. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non ce futuro Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 My bad, you're right! I think I messed up with the translation! What I meant is that CP1 has the same weight all over the keys, while CP5 has the lower keys heavier than the higher ones -like the clavinovas...that would be...eerr... CP1 is non-graded but CP5 is graded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sven Golly Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 My bad, you're right! I think I messed up with the translation! What I meant is that CP1 has the same weight all over the keys, while CP5 has the lower keys heavier than the higher ones -like the clavinovas...that would be...eerr... CP1 is non-graded but CP5 is graded? The CP1 and CP5 have the exact same keybed, no differences whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 My bad, you're right! I think I messed up with the translation! What I meant is that CP1 has the same weight all over the keys, while CP5 has the lower keys heavier than the higher ones -like the clavinovas...that would be...eerr... CP1 is non-graded but CP5 is graded? The CP1 and CP5 have the exact same keybed, no differences whatsoever. Yup, and not graded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanker. Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 The CP50 is the one in the new CP range that is graded, but it's a plastic action. A ROMpler is just a polyphonic turntable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non ce futuro Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 You're all correct, CP1 and CP5 have the same Natural Wood Stage weighted but non-graded keyboard, while CP50 has the GH action, same keyboard as P-155, for example. The MOX8 have the GHS action, same as P-95.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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