Slinky P Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 It was kind of generic so when I thought of something better I changed it. "there ain't no faux mojo" jcadmus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 fog, I was joking about tab. I have a degree in music and do a lot of reading and writing. Tab has been in use since the Renaissance and there is a wealth of tab available for players of the lute. Unfortunately, we do not have a Lute around the house because we sold it during a tight financial moment, so I normally do not look at tab. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foq1978 Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 Hi jeremy, Sorry I didn't detect the irony there! I should have known better, specially because now I see that you're at Berkeley. Lutes sound great. Do you play the Mandolin or Ukelele as well? Maybe you should check out the Cavaquinho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavaquinho) , a Portuguese instrument with great presence in Brazilian music. ------------------------------------------ http://hearthebass.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I have been known to play a mandolin. Currently I have too many instruments in the house to even think about adding another one. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu Fhtagn Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Fog, no offense intended. I was brought up in the classical vein and learned to read standard notation, both clefs. Yes, I admit that I am a standard notation snob. U-G.com isn't bad as far as it goes, and I do own a licensed copy of Guirat-Pro 5.2. I have even transcribed using the "TAB" feature. However, it has limitations. A 46 page transcription because the author never heard of a return, coda or segundo. Glaring errors in transcription. And the ever popular tab notation that pays no defernece to timing or meter. I personally would rather get off the coin and pay someone for their intellectual property or write the thing myself. Does wonders for one's ear training. And Aborius lacks the muscle and flexibility of Finale or Sibelius. For novices and intermediates, writing for striaght up guitar bands, it's good enough. Hell, I transcribed about 60 songs for my jazz band using it; lead sheets, bass lines, drums and keys. One day, while transcribing a song for my son and his band, an argument broke out because he couldn't understand the basic rules for writing down music. He uses tabs as a crutch because it's easier than learning standard notation ... and fighting with me is easier than admitting I'm right. That's how I sees it. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foq1978 Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share Posted August 11, 2009 Fog, no offense intended Not at all! I really understand your point. I wish I could say I prefer standard notation, but tabs made me lazy. I used to, though. I would love to post links for standard notation transcriptions of the songs, but is there any resource on the internet that contains it? The popularity of the tab is what made it the preferred format in my blog. A bit like VHS x Beta. Or writing in SMS mode x writing it properly. Yours is a good argument, though. I'll try to read/write some music sheet around to see if I still can! Take care! ------------------------------------------ http://hearthebass.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 I was brought up in the classical vein and learned to read standard notation, both clefs. What do you mean both clefs? There are more than two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizzo9247 Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Listen to the bass part! Better yet, play it, note for note, no fills, for ten minutes. I hear that. You want to talk about tiring in the groove... [video:youtube] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottom End Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Damn, that's a great riff. I wish I could find a copy of "Bop Time" by the LA Boppers; Eddy "Funky Thumbs" Reddig, a great unsung bass palyer. "Call me what instrument you will, though you can fret me, yet you cannot play upon me.'-Hamlet Guitar solos last 30 seconds, the bass line lasts for the whole song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu Fhtagn Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 I was brought up in the classical vein and learned to read standard notation, both clefs. What do you mean both clefs? There are more than two. Should I have included the grand staff? Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Alto clef...and if you want to get crazy, there are variations on it (soprano, mezzo soprano, tenor and baritone clefs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1111000 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I tried reading alto clef once when my ex was teaching me cello. I never tried again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 http://www.musicarrangers.com/star-theory/images/p02b.gif Read it and weep. Or weep first. http://gfxc.smpgfx.com/Look-Inside/large/3883008_00-01.jpg Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 The joys of moveable clefs. Eat your heart out beeshes. http://www.aboutmusictheory.com/media/music-clefs.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foq1978 Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 I've always thought they were called "C clef". That's why i could't memorize where it should be placed . Thanks for the lesson, you all! ------------------------------------------ http://hearthebass.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottom End Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 A few more bass players worth checking out: David J, of Bauhaus: The loopy yet insistent "She's In Parties". "Call me what instrument you will, though you can fret me, yet you cannot play upon me.'-Hamlet Guitar solos last 30 seconds, the bass line lasts for the whole song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foq1978 Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 Thanks for the tips! I will check them out as soon as I can! ------------------------------------------ http://hearthebass.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I've always thought they were called "C clef". That's why i could't memorize where it should be placed . Thanks for the lesson, you all! Those are all called "C clef" because the clef sign is centered around middle C in each clef. Just like treble clef is called "G clef" because it encircles the G (and it's patterned after a fancy letter G) and the bass clef is called "F clef" because the dots go around the F (and it's patterned after a fancy letter F). Treble and bass clefs are both moveable too...it just isn't seen much anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1111000 Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 http://www.musicarrangers.com/star-theory/images/p02b.gif So is tenor clef a fifth above bass clef, or a fifth below? (I'd think above??) Similarly is alto a whole step down or a minor seventh above? (If treble clef were a natural sixth above bass clef, for instance.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Tenor clef is a 5th above bass clef. Alto clef it a minor 7th above bass clef. Just remember that those clefs have the symbol centered around middle C...and middle C is the first ledger line above bass clef. The clef symbols don't move, the difference is in which lines are shown. It's kind of like an episode of Futurama I saw the other night...the dark matter thrusters on the space ship don't propel the ship, they move the universe around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Behold! Ultima Clef: http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o92/shadow1784/ultimaclef.jpg Pick 5 consecutive lines that include at least one of the red ones and you've got yourself a clef of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottom End Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 MEga Clef? OmniClef? "Call me what instrument you will, though you can fret me, yet you cannot play upon me.'-Hamlet Guitar solos last 30 seconds, the bass line lasts for the whole song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 ...then by the same right, we have Super Ultima Clef and Sub Ultima Clef. 8va higher and lower than written, respecively. http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o92/shadow1784/superandsubultimaclef.jpg Oh, silly silliness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 What, are you going to write an entire roman à clef about this subject? Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 What, are you going to write an entire roman à clef about this subject? Ayuckayuckayuck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I can't decide whether to call it Clef Farm or The Clef Gatsby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcr Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 You're a dark matter thruster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 You're a Clef Gatsby. Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu Fhtagn Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Sorry I asked ... Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 You should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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