Ricardo. Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 http://www.zacharyguitars.com/120300pics.htm So, I really want to know how to make a guitar. /dripping saliva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Pine? I`ll believe it when I hear it. Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Yeah, I wouldn't be calling pine a "tone wood". Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 LMAO!! Knotty Pine! Now, I've seen it all!! It does look purdy!! :grin: Pine is a soft wood....It also tends to bend and warp...oppsy To my recollection, I've never seen pine used in any way for an electric guitar before. I'd wonder what the tone would be like? I suspect that pine would have done better in the furniture, or lining the walls in your den!! Ikea had it right in the first place. Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trucks Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I love that body... Its made up of a few bits of 2x4. Funny that they went with a clear finish with pine... When pine was originally used in furniture and doors it was meant to be painted! Because it wasnt pretty like Oak etc... It was like the equivelent then of making doors out of MDF now. So great... The IKEA guitar... Made out of 19th century MDF equivelant. Soundclick Myspace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 They used multiple small pine planks glued together to make the body. Perhaps all the glue might keep the body more stable, and less likely to warp??? Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trucks Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I hope it does warp. Just to teach the guy a lesson, that he had the stupidest idea in the universe. :grin: Now thats just mean I guess... He is probably gonna get rich from it now, when IKEA buy his design and sell it as a build your own kit. Soundclick Myspace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Or use many of these guitars to panel your rec room!! Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trucks Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Well, either that or you could use them to keep you warm in the winter months Soundclick Myspace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A String Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I don't think he glued the panels himself. I think the table that he cut the piece from, looked like that. Here is one of the Ikea tables to give you an idea: http://www.ikea.com/PIAimages/27221_PE103355_S4.jpg Craig Stringnetwork on Facebook String Network Forum My Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdrs Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Well, either that or you could use them to keep you warm in the winter months Yes!! I can hear it now...."That guitarist is ON FIRE!!" :grin: Don "There once was a note, Pure and Easy. Playing so free, like a breath rippling by." http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=574296 http://www.myspace.com/imdrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesape Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Doesn't look like somethin' I'd rush out to buy, but this guy claims to be a luthier, and seems to have used quality parts with a dubious body. Can you say Danelectro? Just refreshed my memory at his site. I'll revise my comment, and retract the word "claims". I've run across his site before, and find a lot of his designs innovative and artistic. Not sayin' the pine grabs me, but his work lends credence to his words. Never a DUH! moment! Well, almost never. OK, OK! Sometimes never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg B. Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Danelectro was the first thing that I thought when I saw it too, Bluesape. Kind of interesting, but I don't think that I would want a guitar made out of pine. I really do like the fret markers tho. Avoid playing the amplifier at a volume setting high enough to produce a distorted sound through the speaker-Fender Guitar Course-1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 A six string popsicle stick. For $1500. Great. Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesape Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 A six string popsicle stick. For $1500. Great. Hah! Only in Vegas! Give his website a look, Skip - ya might like some of his ideas. I know I'd love to try a few of them out. Never a DUH! moment! Well, almost never. OK, OK! Sometimes never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I'll take a big PASS on that one, it pretty much has the same sonic characteristics as one of my old canoe paddles in the garage. http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardtail Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Pine wood? That's like the white trash of the forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Yeti Bigfoot, Esq. Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 It actually should be structurally fairly stable (as far as warping). The table top was several edge-glued boards, but that's only the top. If you look carefully, you can see where the top (the part made from the Ikea table top) is actually laminated to two thicker pieces of edge-glued pine. What I'd be concerned about is the sonic characteristic (he says it's good...but that's pretty subjective), and the fact that pine is so soft...how well is the hardware going to hold? Screws tend to strip and pull out of pine pretty easily. "And so I definitely, when I have a daughter, I have a lot of good advice for her." ~Paris Hilton BWAAAHAAAHAAHAAA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoes Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 First thought that came to mind was to route out a little beer bottle holder and put the legs back on it. Kind of like a TV tray lap steel thing. No sure if it's worth $1500 regardless of what hardware it's wearing. I still think guitars are like shoes, but louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 It actually should be structurally fairly stable (as far as warping). The table top was several edge-glued boards, but that's only the top. If you look carefully, you can see where the top (the part made from the Ikea table top) is actually laminated to two thicker pieces of edge-glued pine. What I'd be concerned about is the sonic characteristic (he says it's good...but that's pretty subjective), and the fact that pine is so soft...how well is the hardware going to hold? Screws tend to strip and pull out of pine pretty easily. Well he says this about the strength of the pines mechanical holding characteristics: " I came up with some extremely hard to find black machine screws which screw into metal inserts instead of the soft wood of the guitar. I also use these inserts and screws for the control cover. Very clever, wouldn't you say?" What a putz this guy is!! yeah everybodys been using inserts and bushings in wood to take machine screws for oh ABOUT 100 YEARS!! ...YEAH Pretty clever allright!! (hard to find black metal metal machine screws! MY ASS!!!) http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Yeti Bigfoot, Esq. Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Ahh...OK. I didn't even bother to read the whole thing. My initial response to the whole idea is "Why?" It doesn't even really look good. "And so I definitely, when I have a daughter, I have a lot of good advice for her." ~Paris Hilton BWAAAHAAAHAAHAAA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffinator Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I'd give him $150 for one, just to strip it for parts... A bunch of loud, obnoxious music I USED to make with friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsd1965 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Ahh...OK. I didn't even bother to read the whole thing. My initial response to the whole idea is "Why?" It doesn't even really look good. I agree with the hairy fellow with the mint green strat, I don't think it looks that good at all. On the subject of "alternative" tonewoods though, is there a reason I haven't seen any solid body electrics made of cherry? Is it not a good material to use for some reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Ellwood Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Hummm...don't know! it is much like maple although maybe a big softer, dense and close grained, I don't think I've ever seen one http://www.thestringnetwork.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsd1965 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Hummm...don't know! it is much like maple although maybe a big softer, dense and close grained, I don't think I've ever seen one Yeah, I was wondering if it might be just a little too soft. Reason I asked is because the way he has that pine edge glued got me thinking about some cherry wood I have that was stored up in the joists of my basement when we moved in(previous owner was into woodworking, as am I). It's all milled up nice and square and there looks to be enough to edge glue together and fashion a body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Check out Morch guitars, from Denmark. That guy uses some cherry wood for tops, looks nice. Warrior guitars has a model with a redwood top, also a beautiful looking wood. Don`t know how they sound. I haven`t looked at the guy`s site yet, it`s on the `to do` list for today. Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 did you know that the original prototype of the Broadcaster was made with a pine body. yup it is true. more pine poop i think the original prototype was the only one made of pine. the guy in the link above states otherwise. original prototype fender Fender did a collectors reissue of this in a very limited number complete with amp and hard case for both amp and guitar in 1996. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 i found an old link to the replica ... click yup PINE http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesape Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 We seem to agree that the pine model isn't inducing GAS convulsions, but don't dismiss all of his work over one model. If we judged all makers so harshly over one flop, there'd be no Gibson, Fender, Guild,..... I really think this guy is building some choice guitars, but the Pineocaster(?) ain't doin' it for me. But, I can see myself playing certain other models from him. Never a DUH! moment! Well, almost never. OK, OK! Sometimes never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipclone 1 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Well I don`t see how, almost all the ones I saw are `sold` or `not for sale` I gotta give the guy credit, that is one unique website. Takes some castanets to include posts from guys who think you are an idiot on your own page. But some nice guitars. however having read the guy`s profile, the $1500 popsicle stick doesn`t seem so unexpected. Same old surprises, brand new cliches- Skipsounds on Soundclick: www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandid=602491 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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