Hardtail Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I find a chord most everyday that gives me some kind of problem. A particular G9 chord is a bit hard for me right now. Practice. Practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 my vocal chords are bad http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlChuck Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 That A11 -- that's what I would call an impractical voicing. Not only is it extremely difficult to finger, it sounds bad... too many close intervals down low... Now if you take the top four notes and play an open A, and just leave the sixth string alone, it sounds great and it's hecka easy to finger... and it's not so bad in moveable form either with the first finger on the root, and the third and fourth fingers on the top four strings. Better yet, leave out the root too, let the bass player play it, and you have a very easy chord shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xplorer Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Vocal chord... I can't sing. What a horrible night to have a curse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squ Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Originally posted by superdave: The A chord is killing my "other" short finger at the moment. Also even with small hands I find it it hard to cram three fingers in the space needed to make that chord. I don't know how some guitar players with big hands make some of the harder chords. At the second fret? I usually just bar it and mute the high e, much less of a pain in the hand. Red Red Rockit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Originally posted by Squ: Originally posted by superdave: The A chord is killing my "other" short finger at the moment. Also even with small hands I find it it hard to cram three fingers in the space needed to make that chord. I don't know how some guitar players with big hands make some of the harder chords. At the second fret? I usually just bar it and mute the high e, much less of a pain in the hand. I thought that was how it was played. Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Yeti Bigfoot, Esq. Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Originally posted by Big Red 67: Originally posted by Sasquatch51: Originally posted by Big Red 67: I have trouble with my blue chord all my other chords work pretty well. Even that dark green one with the yellow spots? That's not a chord, that's my snake Monty (he's a python). How'd he get out? hehe Maybe he's looking for Boa Derek. "And so I definitely, when I have a daughter, I have a lot of good advice for her." ~Paris Hilton BWAAAHAAAHAAHAAA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Originally posted by Sasquatch51: Originally posted by Big Red 67: Originally posted by Sasquatch51: quote:Originally posted by Big Red 67: I have trouble with my blue chord all my other chords work pretty well. Even that dark green one with the yellow spots? That's not a chord, that's my snake Monty (he's a python). How'd he get out? hehe Maybe he's looking for Boa Derek. Prolly a mouse or a rat! Think about it! He scares the crap outa the cats nad the dog. I can allway tell when he is out cause the four legs will not eat when he gets out. Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Originally posted by AlChuck: That A11 -- that's what I would call an impractical voicing. Not only is it extremely difficult to finger, it sounds bad... too many close intervals down low... Now if you take the top four notes and play an open A, and just leave the sixth string alone, it sounds great and it's hecka easy to finger... and it's not so bad in moveable form either with the first finger on the root, and the third and fourth fingers on the top four strings. Better yet, leave out the root too, let the bass player play it, and you have a very easy chord shape. Yes, I had to use both hands to fret that. The solution you offer is much, much better. It is correct in the theory sense too. Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolead Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Hmm...well, F never really gave me too much trouble much after 3 weeks of playing guitar. I think I was so used to the key from trumpet/piano that it sounded right enough to want to play. Now that I go back and reexamine my chords, I remember now. It was that stupid Amaj inversion to an Dsus2 in Metallica's "Hero of the Day." They seemed to love it for some reason, and I had a really weak pinky back then. Can you believe I used to play the entire "Fade to Black" solo without using my pinky? I had to go back and reteach myself fingerings to get my pinky in shape. Anyway, it's fingered like this: E|------------------ B|------------------ G|------2-------2--- D|----2-------2----- A|--4-------5------- E|------------------ Shut up and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantasticsound Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Originally posted by A String: Originally posted by fantasticsound: quote:Originally posted by A String: ...Hey, maybe it's for the best. Otherwise you may have never learned to play an "F" chord. You think so? Well F - yo... (Scuffling sounds as minions of the moderator tackle and subdue fantasticsound and give him the heave-ho! Uh... the phone company has many more minions than any moderator.. and they've been trained to deny all requests with unparalleled indifference to the requisitor. But we digress... It's easiest to find me on Facebook. Neil Bergman Soundclick fntstcsnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprae Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 5 X 5 6 5 0 or it might all be up one fret - I can't find the book right now. Raise your children and spoil your grandchildren. Spoil your children and raise your grandchildren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S. Yeti Bigfoot, Esq. Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Originally posted by Big Red 67: Originally posted by Sasquatch51: Originally posted by Big Red 67: quote:Originally posted by Sasquatch51: quote:Originally posted by Big Red 67: I have trouble with my blue chord all my other chords work pretty well. Even that dark green one with the yellow spots? That's not a chord, that's my snake Monty (he's a python). How'd he get out? hehe Maybe he's looking for Boa Derek. Prolly a mouse or a rat! Think about it! He scares the crap outa the cats nad the dog. I can allway tell when he is out cause the four legs will not eat when he gets out. Hmmm...does he get out a lot? Have you looked at the Boaphile cages? What is he? Retic? Burmese? African Rock Python? one of the Australians? "And so I definitely, when I have a daughter, I have a lot of good advice for her." ~Paris Hilton BWAAAHAAAHAAHAAA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Originally posted by Sasquatch51: Originally posted by Big Red 67: Originally posted by Sasquatch51: quote:Originally posted by Big Red 67: quote:Originally posted by Sasquatch51: quote:Originally posted by Big Red 67: I have trouble with my blue chord all my other chords work pretty well. Even that dark green one with the yellow spots? That's not a chord, that's my snake Monty (he's a python). How'd he get out? hehe Maybe he's looking for Boa Derek. Prolly a mouse or a rat! Think about it! He scares the crap outa the cats nad the dog. I can allway tell when he is out cause the four legs will not eat when he gets out. Hmmm...does he get out a lot? Have you looked at the Boaphile cages? What is he? Retic? Burmese? African Rock Python? one of the Australians? Monty python. hehe Ball python. No he has only gotten out a couple of times when the cat sat on top of the screen and broke it. The cat learned! Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hector gonzales Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 I agree with ALCHUCK on that A11 chord. I'd see no reason to play it unless you're a soloist and its required in the piece. I'm gonna assume (maybe wrongly) that most guitarist here play in bands or some kind of ensemble. Full bar chords like an F is just not necessary if you have a bassist. Unless you're doing punk or such. If you have a bass, and you're looking for some finesse and clear articulate sound, stick to simple triads, with whatever inversions, 7ths, 9ths, 11ths,etc., are necessary for color. Some of the more difficult chords for me are the ones with semitones, like the following major A Major 7th. in ascending order c# G# A E. I hoping I'm not stepping on toes here. I'm a newbie here, but I just want to emphasize that in practical application with a band, its very rare for me to actually play a FULL bar chord. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duff beer Posted July 23, 2006 Share Posted July 23, 2006 Originally posted by superdave: The A chord is killing my "other" short finger at the moment. Also even with small hands I find it it hard to cram three fingers in the space needed to make that chord. I don't know how some guitar players with big hands make some of the harder chords. I play the open A with my two middle fingers spanning the 3 fretted notes and have no problem. I have a hard time with Bflat in the position 13331...and also the B and the C... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzan Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 i would like to welcome duff beer to the forum. welcome duff. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=193274 rock it, i will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruupi Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Ditto on the B7. I played in a church choir for many years and always had problems with B7. I think thats a pretty common hurdle as the other guitarists in the choir all struggled with it. It does take a bit of finger independance since you cross over the first finger and the pinky is all the way down on the little "E" string. In retrospective, I wish all chords were as easy as B7 though, some classical guitar music chords are downright diabolical to switch between. And I hear Allan Holdsworth chords take an alien to play them. My soundclick site: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=397188 My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/gruupi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamburglar Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 my guitar teacher plays the A chord with just 2 fingers and doesnt flatten any out... his fingers are big enough so he can pull it off.. I tried it but it always felt like the strings were rolling around.. but I could play it that way... F was a pain but I worked around it with different chord shapes... Eat a Peach for Peace.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILLO Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 By far, the hardest I've encountered is H with an exaggerated octave, a depressed 13th and a malformed 21st, especially in the 7-and-a-half inversion. It's always easier when the 13th is over-confident and the 17th is over-inflated. Gotta hate those flat 17ths. "Without music, life would be a mistake." --from 'Beyond Good and Evil', by Friedrich Nietzsche My MySpace Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILLO Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Originally posted by guitarzan: i would like to welcome duff beer to the forum.I prefer Fudd beer. The best! Springfieldians don't know what they're missing! Now seriously: welcome, Duff Beer! Beer is always welcome (except maybe Coors Light). "Without music, life would be a mistake." --from 'Beyond Good and Evil', by Friedrich Nietzsche My MySpace Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gifthorse Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 My guitar chord!! http://flagshipmile.dmusic.com/ http://www.myspace.com/gifthorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotosound45 Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 F used to be a problem, until I learned that one passage in "Little Wing" where you slide the F shape chord through positions 5-7-5-3 while using your pinky and thumb to add the extra F and G (3rd position notes). After that, a plain ol' F seemed rather easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duff beer Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Thanks for the welcome folks!! I am new here and somewhat new on guitar as well...I played bass in a basement band for 20+ years and am considering making the switch to guitar (in the same band ), so you may be seeing some questions from me because I need to get better real fast!! By the way, isn't this also an A11? http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/3585/a11qm5.jpg' alt='a11qm5.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruupi Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Sort of an A11 Duff, I guess you can have the ninth (B) in there and no third. Also no real reason to leave out the low E. My soundclick site: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=397188 My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/gruupi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duff beer Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 As I said, I'm a beginner But like most people, I do play a quick A11 (with the low E) almost every time that I make a chord change ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruupi Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Hehe, good one Duff. My soundclick site: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=397188 My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/gruupi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprae Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 E - 0 Moving to 0 B - 0 0 G - 9 4 D - 9 4 A - 7 6 E - 0 X The first part is easy. The second part its easy to numb the B. Raise your children and spoil your grandchildren. Spoil your children and raise your grandchildren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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