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On 1/27/2024 at 8:54 AM, ElmerJFudd said:
Vagueness continues -
It seems you need the hardware; they aren't selling the plug-in separately. If so, that's a bizarre choice as those who would want the VST most are those that don't own the hardware.
So what technically would happen if you didn't need have the hardware? I ask because I've been having trouble getting Logic (or any DAW) to authorize the plugin. I don't have my Montage connected to the computer though. I thought the plugin was standalone (hence all the GBs of data (I assumed samples, etc) that come with it. But maybe if I connected it via USB, it would authorize.
I also want to add that Steinberg authorization manager is saying that it's activated... super weird.
On 1/27/2024 at 8:54 AM, ElmerJFudd said:If it requires the hardware - do you have to always have your Montage M with you? You couldn't say, take all your Montage M playlists on your MacBook to a gig and just use the backline's keyboard or other controller?
It doesn't have a standalone version? Only wrapped as AU/VST so you have to use a host?
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1 hour ago, Docbop said:
The Kronos now Nautilus is only one that calls itself a workstation, or as I've heard people comment...it's a complete recording studio inside of a keyboard. Yamaha Montage and Roland Fantom both call themselves synthesizers not workstations.
The motifs are... So I'd bet the montage may be considered one by them as well. I could be wrong though... (See pic)
BUT
The Nord Stage series definitely falls into this category.
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On 11/22/2023 at 9:31 PM, DeltaJockey said:
The acoustic guitars on the M are truly superb, but the performance the player picked in my opinion, is not the best example. There's a doubling or delay going on, making it lose its nice pluck. Many of the guitars are legacies from the original Montage, but even they sound better on the new M!
Here are some more.
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On 12/6/2023 at 3:39 PM, Motif88 said:
Thanks for the additional feedback. For the record, I think Roland does a better job of having product and feature specific videos on YouTube. I'd prefer to watch a video to reviewing the 4 different Yamaha Montage M manuals to perform controller assignments. Don't get me wrong, the Montage M is SO much better than I remember my 3 Motif's and Kronos but teeing up how to assign the new ribbon controller or PAT to a modulation destination without having to read a manual written by an engineer would be helpful.
I got you. Don't fret. Help is on the way. Lol. Just keep asking questions like this so I can see what people are needing to know. 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
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26 minutes ago, DeltaJockey said:
The acoustic guitars on the M are truly superb, but the performance the player picked in my opinion, is not the best example. There's a doubling or delay going on, making it lose its nice pluck. Many of the guitars are legacies from the original Montage, but even they sound better on the new M!
I have a guitar one coming this weekend. Let me know if you hear the same thing in mine.
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12 minutes ago, Theo Verelst said:
Because I find it likely this machine can be properly tuned into sounding inside, I thought I'd listen to some more demonstrations.
(“Ambient Droplet Drift” by Lawrence Lougheed)
(analog)
T Verelst
Thanks for sharing.
What do you mean when you say "properly tuned into sounding inside"?
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On 11/13/2023 at 6:55 PM, Motif88 said:
JDM may be a nice guy but he is clearly pushing for youtube feeds/followers with shorts and made up “controversies” to feed the same. I get it, but…
This is completely wrong. I made a short to make a short. This is not made up. It really happened as shown in the video. It's not a controversy either. I only posted it because I thought it was kinda cool and I hadn't ever seen it happen before. The only reason it became an issue or a "controversy" as you call it was because people couldn't get it to replicate on their keyboard and others had no idea what was going on either.
Then to add on top of that... I called Yamaha support and their tech support agent, had no idea that the keyboard did it. He had to get off the phone with me and email higher tier support to get an answer. ....
I have nothing to gain by posting a single short on YouTube... And then posting it here as a reference when asking a question.
You should think through your comments more before you make such silly remarks. It's not fair to the person you are judging and it can cause people to misjudge you as a decision maker. And that's not fair to you... since I'm sure you are a nice guy😉
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30 minutes ago, K K said:
Hi there, I'm late to the party but I can confirm this is also a feature on the Korg Kronos. So if the Auto-Power Off is set to a given time, the switch physically goes to the off position and rather loudly.
This works using a timed "kill switch" circuit which sends a signal for that purpose. The machine also needs a special type of on/off switch. On the Kronos though, you hear 30 beeps during the last 30 seconds to warn you, as a last chance to push on a key to cancel the kill switch signal. 
Yeah Yamaha has confirmed that it's working as intended. As well versed as I am with Kronos, I never owned a Kronos 2. So I didn't know that until the last few weeks. But good to know now!
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On 11/7/2023 at 7:27 PM, benj2017 said:
Dude, he’s not asking how to set the feature, he’s asking about the button popping out which is not in the manual. Calm down…
Now, I for sure missed that last part about after the auto power off has been carried out that we can use a standby/on switch to restore the power. That's pretty nice.
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On 11/7/2023 at 6:23 PM, Motif88 said:
The instructions are in the Montage M Quick Guide page 31
RTFM!
Wow.... I didn't realize stuff like this happened here on this forum. YIKES. Sorry, if my question offended you. Oh never mind, based on the response, you didn't read the question. lol. Have a good day sir!!!
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Hey guys.... I talked to a Yamaha Customer Support rep today and I sent them a link to my video. They didn't think it was supposed to behave the way mine is. But they escalated it to get the answer... This is the email that I got back.
It's working properly. So for the guys who don't experience this... I'm not sure what to say now.
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6 hours ago, Docbop said:
I think my RD-2000 (maybe my Kronos) did that. I'd be at my computer across the room working and hear a big click, it was the auto off turning off the keyboard. It did have option in the system setting for how long to wait to turn off so I just took the longest time available.
I turned it off completely. But I don't want to have to make work arounds for a keyboard that is less than 2 weeks old. IF it's not supposed to flip. Hope that makes sense.
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3 hours ago, stoken6 said:
Auto-off is a European Union requirement. Is it possible that you got the EU firmware image, while "no one else has experienced the same thing I did" because they're running US firmware, which has the auto-off option deselected?
Cheers, Mike.
It doesn't do it when auto off is turned off.
The switch flip (by itself) is the problem. Not the feature.
Did anyone actually look at the video? 🫣
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Guys, the auto off is not the issue. I know and understand what annauto off function is. But I'm my experience it's been a "soft" off... Vs the switch manually flipping on its own. It doesn't do it when I turn the feature off. I simply wanted to know if ANY ONE ELSE HAD A MONTAGE M THAT WAS DOING THE SAME THING.
And I still haven't found a single person who's Montage does this. 😂😂😂😂
My Yamaha rep said it is supposed to do it. But other people who set the auto shut off aren't experiencing it.
Crazy. But .... It is what it is.
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2 hours ago, AnotherScott said:
It's hard to say without getting my hands on one and trying it myself. But if there were two versions of the M8x, with and without polyAT, I could imagine something like a $200 difference between the two being justifiable. But I suspect that the amount you're actually being charged for this feature is zero, which makes it quite a bargain. 🙂 I mean, based on what the 6/7/8 price difference had been on the Montage it's replacing ($500 jump from one to the next), I bet the price would have been the same with or without this feature. And there may indeed have been virtually no difference in what it costs them to manufacture, especially since, as has been discussed, they are repurposing some existing tech to implement it, i.e. they may indeed have found a way to add this feature without it adding to their manufacturing cost.
I thought it was stated that it's a completely different keybed from the ones being used for their 88 models before.
FWIW, the ES8, XS8, XF8, Montage 8 keybed all use the same part number from Yamaha...
The M8X, won't be able to do that (I'd guess). Could be wrong though.
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28 minutes ago, Stokely said:
My SK Pro was shutting off by default when I first got it--though I don't think the switch physically moved--I thought I had a defective unit. I don't believe I'd ever had a keyboard with an auto-shutoff before. The Sk Pro default shutoff time was annoyingly short iirc. Long story short, if that's all it is just find it and disable as others have mentioned.
Not sure how many people here have these just yet. I'd check the yamaha musician forum and maybe the facebook group for the montage, which I see posts from since I'm a member of the Modx group
If it is a defect of course you want to find out and get it taken care of by the vendor or via warranty asap.
Yeah the rep said it's supposed to do it. I'm definitely going to double check though. Just wanted to see what the keyboard community had to say before I made a big (or medium) deal about it.
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45 minutes ago, Baggypants said:
Maybe they disabled the auto off?
I have a question. If there is no power at all to the keyboard will the switch stay in the on position? If not then they're using an electromagnet to hold the switch on. It would be especially helpful for battery operated boards to do this.
Well some people have reported that they went and changed their setting and sat and waited and it never shut off. I found that extremely odd.
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4 minutes ago, AnotherScott said:
I can't answer your question because I don't have a Montage M. But FWIW, my Hammond SK Pro does the same thing with its auto-shutoff. It was a little disconcerting the first times it happened!
Definitely. My rep from Yamaha says it's supposed to happen. But I'm still thinking, why doesn't any one else's board do it then. 😂😂😂😂
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1 minute ago, Baggypants said:
My thoughts:
1. Probably a broken spring in the switch.
2. Possibly a halloween month hoax, but it's a bit late.
3. Yamahaunted.
Right. I originally posted this in Halloween, and someone told me my keyboard was haunted. Lol
.- Yamahaunted sounds funny. 😂
You wouldn't think the spring being broken would make it happen in timing with the auto shut off timer though. Right?
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Just now, Delaware Dave said:
most keyboards i know of with auto shutoff have the ability to turn the feature off, so why dont you just turn off the feature?
as far as implementation why do you care if the switch also auto offs itself or not, i actually think it makes more sense that the keyboard's switch turns off if the keyboard is going into auto off, this way if the keyboard goes off and you see the switch is off you know it is related to auto off and not a different issue.
Thanks for your feedback.
As stated, I just want to make sure it's SUPPOSED to do it. Turning off the feature doesn't fix anything if it's not functioning properly. Lol. You think I'm looking for band aids on purchase like this?
FWIW, the switch definitely feels different after the autoshutoff.
Just wanted to see if other people had the same experience. Hadn't had one response saying their keyboard did the same thing. 🤷🏾♂️🫣
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9 minutes ago, TJ Cornish said:
Did it correspond with the timing of your auto-shutoff settings? Sometimes switches are also circuit breakers. If this didn’t fit with auto-shutoff settings, that would indicate either something wrong with the power supply that is causing the switch/breaker to trip, or something wrong with the switch itself.
Oh yeah, the timing was in line with the auto shut off setting. But still I wonder why no one else has experienced the same thing I did. Lol. Or at least no one has responded that they have.
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I expected some people to say... Oh yeah, mine she's that too. And then we laugh it off and move on. But that's just hasn't happened yet... I find it a bit awkward.
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Ok guys, so what started as a funny video about what I thought could be a new feature, is now starting to get a little bothersome.
Nobody else seems to be able to get their keyboard to do this.
There is an auto shut off feature in the Yamaha Montage M series. (I know it's been in their past boards too)...but this one is different.
The power switch automatically flips from on to off. Like a ghost does it😂😂. I've not found one person that's been able to replicate it on their keyboard. So now, I'm wondering if something is physically wrong with the switch.
Please check out this extremely "short" video and let me know what you think. Thanks!
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On 10/27/2023 at 5:54 PM, AnotherScott said:
But they are generating a lot more buzz with it. They will probably sell more of them because it has this feature.
Personally, if you gave me a choice of a Montage M8 with or without pokyAT (at the same price), I'd take the one with. 😉
Of course.... Me too 😁
But what's the most difference that you'd pay is they weren't the same price?
This works using a timed "kill switch" circuit which sends a signal for that purpose. The machine also needs a special type of on/off switch. On the Kronos though, you hear 30 beeps during the last 30 seconds to warn you, as a last chance to push on a key to cancel the kill switch signal. 
If it is a defect of course you want to find out and get it taken care of by the vendor or via warranty asap.
Yamaha E.S.P - as it pertains to Montage M
in The Keyboard Corner
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I also want to say that it would be somewhat counter productive for them to allow people to use the software without the keyboard... then nobody would go spend 4k on the board. Right? or not near as many for sure.
Then what happens if you OWNED the keyboard, but then sold it. Would you still have the right to the software or would that move to the next person?