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Sorry - yes didn't mean GHS, just meant weighted! TBH the quality of the speaker output is most important, the action would be secondary. So impressed with the CT-S1 in regards to the onboard speakers, Trying to avoid paying for voices/functionality whch would largely be redundant Am eagerly awaiting Casio's forthcoming CDP S110 and CDP S160 as this might tick all the boxes but no sign of when it will be aviable in Europe yet

This kind of relates to my previous comments about the CT-S1 but does anyone know of an 88 key GHS Midi controller with its own speakers. So no need to have any onboard sounds, all I want to to is use it play my iPad VSTs but have the sound come back out through the board (rather than an external speaker attached to the iPad). This is basically what I do with my little CT-S1 a lot of the time but I just need more 61 synth keys and want to keep the setup as slim (and low cost) as possible and work with what have already go. Does such a thing even exist Commenst/suggestions as always super welcome and appreciated

Just as a heads up - not sure if just a European market thing but the bluetooth adaptor is now being included by the looks of things - even more reason to pull the trigger!

Just giving this one a little bump - after half a year on with this board have to say I still love it, it just screams to be played and sounds great in so many informal situations that it's encouraged me to play more often then anything have purchased in last few years. BUT god I wish it had 88 keys, I really do, even with the same action. That would be me done - one board and a big smile on my face. Everything else just ticks the right box. Of course I get why Casio wouldn't want to do that, and of course there's countless other models out there, but just don't want to shell out for something I ended up linking less just to get my full range. Still continues to be a big thumbs up from me (but please Casio just think about it!)

Brilliant - this is so useful. Thanks for taking the time. This forum rocks

Ah man, why did they do that. Prevents me using the iPad to supplement the onboard sounds as am doing with my CT-S1, directing the audio back to the onboard speakers. Bluetooth would be to laggy. Been waiting to see if they'd make an update, Oh well at least might be able to pick up an PX S1000 at a lower price!

I'm able to send program changes to the S1 using MainStage, but I'm a bit fuzzy how it all works together. My Settings: - Local control on the S1 is OFF using [FUNCTION + F#2] - Program change and bank select codes from page 76 of the manual https://www.kraftmusic.com/media/ownersmanual/Casio_CT-S1_Users_Guide.pdf Notes: - Using MainStage - I can set the current tone on the S1. - I can also set the current tone using the hardware buttons on the S1. - If I turn ON local control, the tone set by the hardware buttons will be layered with the tone set by MainStage.. This is where I'm a bit fuzzy on how it works, it seems there are two layers/systems at work here (local and external) and I'm not sure how exactly they interact with each other. Once local control is ON - both tone layers are active with the hardware buttons controlling one tone and MainStage controlling the other tone. - The tone set with external control (MainStage) has a slight bit of latency because MIDI is running out to MainStage and then back to the S1 (via USB). I'll have to experiment a bit more to see if MainStage can set the tones at the "local control" level. Thanks so much, that"s exactly what am experiencing - am actually using it with my iPad Pro so just need to investigate a way of enacting the program change to switch tones

One thing have found - am able to play the CT-S1 from an external controller via usb but no matter what tone button I select the it only plays the main piano sound and nothing else (so no organs, EPs etc.) Which is still great but a bit odd? Am I missing something obvious?

FWIW - picked up a white CT-S1 earlier this week and am absolutely loving it. For the price the sounds are really fantastic and the speakers are equally as impressive. It just makes you want to play the damn thing which I guess is the idea. It"s got a real 'object of desire" feel as well - something which I feel is lacking from a lot of boards, my other half seems in no hurry to clear it off the table or couch which much say something. If Casio decide to bring out an 88 key hammer equivalent with the same look and quality I"ll be first in the queue. Gonna be a fun weekend ð

These just look so good together, Casio are onto something here - are there any hints out there that the PX-S3000 might get some color options in the future?

Yes it does - actually wasn't necessarily thinking of audio over USB (though that would be neater) so the board just needs an audio in really

As always thanks for all your reponses, few things hadn't considered - Casio definitely seem to be the direction to lean. Had thought about a battery powered speakers in the past but have never really come across a product that seems to fit the bill (and testing anything seems near impossible these days) I don't need anything that powerful really, its more of a clarity issue that lets them down IMHO - SH

The way playing live has been evolving for me personally over the last few months and into the summer means I really want to simplify my equipment setup and make it as portable as possible. Recently I have transitioned to using my iPad pro as a sound module which has worked really well. But there are occasions (sometimes within the same set) where it would be more beneficial to use some onboard sounds and keep the iPad for sheet music etc. I can also pretty much get away without the need for external amplification and would prefer for the most part to use a good set of internal speakers I am loving what I see from the CT S1 - both in terms of the quality and range of the tones provided, which would cover 80% of what I need, with the iPad backing up the rest. I also love the minimal form factor and think would look great in the sort of environments I tend to play. BUT I really need 88 hammer keys for some stuff. My piano playing is already sloppy enough as is without a non weighted dragging me further into ill disicpline! What would people say is the closest 88 hammer equivalent of the CT S1? Just to clarify this is what I would need to get to my one board dream. ⢠88 hammer keys ⢠Good range of quality tones equivalent to the CT-S1 that cover most of your classic key sounds (EP, Rhodes, Wurli etc as well as Piano) ⢠Internal speakers (Ideally bit louder than CT S1) ⢠Able to be battery powered ⢠Comes with music stand (more important than you might think) ⢠USB out and some way to have the audio from the iPad come back into the board and play though internal speakers ⢠A mod wheel would be great, but also ideally perhaps a couple of controller elements to send CC to the iPad (I could live without this) Budget would be under $800 (ish) Feel like the the PX-S1000 would be the closest but tone list is a bit limiting, and in the couple of instances have tried one out I never really connected 100% but willing to have my mind changed As always any advice massivley appreciated

Thanks - its something I had seen and thought might do the trick, just wondered whether anyone had any real use experience of using one of these hubs. It was always my assumption the non-apple unoffical adapters could be somewhat temperamental?

I feel almost embarrassed to ask this but I can't seem to find the solution spelled out anywhere - am sure there is, blame lockdown brain. I want to use my new model iPad Pro (so no headphone jack) as a sound module for a few informal live bits over the next few months. I have the adapter that connects my midi controller to the USB-C port, but whats the correct solution for getting audio out? I do have an adapter which gives the iPad Pro an audio jack out and USB-C in, but if I then plug the USB to USB-C adaptor into that in (so essentially there's a chain of two adaptors going into the iPad) it won't recognise any midi input at all. Is there a straightforward solution, just a simple audio interface, that I should be using. I think I just wrongly assumed there would be a simple off-the-shelf way of doing this Take pity on me!

I could be wrong - often am - but looking at the cloud membership packages I think you need the Pro package rather than the Core ($30) to get the forthcoming Model Expansions? So its a fair bit more expensive to access those. Have been having a bit of a scout around the Zenology setup - it is a bargain as Woody says and the sounds are really excellent. Its an interesting comparison to something like Arturias Analog Lab offering with their controllers and I wonder whether something like Rolands new A-88 will automatically map to Zenology? I do find though the GUI at present little basic visually and again compared to something like Analog Lab, theres no option in this version for multis/splits etc. Its not standalone either from what I can see which is a shame, as you could just stick it on a MBP without the need for a DAW, pair it with a controller and you"ve got a 'best of Roland" gigging workstation. All that said its $30 and release day one! - theres plenty of exciting potential here I think

Have given it a go for you - not getting any buzz from either speaker really with this sample, so not sure how much that helps. Its def the right speaker that plays up for me but there are things I can do to alleviate it - so might suggest your issue is much more likely to be a defective unit? Anything else you want me to try just shout

Thanks Tim, had come across that fix previously but appreciate it. Have found it works pretty well on some of the AP sounds but not all, there are also some third party libraries which have a bit more punch. Just an odd quirk on Yamahas part I think. In hindsight should have gone with the MODX7 and paired it with a weighted DP that could be played standalone with internal speakers. Or if I could find an alternative 88 with the same kind of level of onboard sounds as the MODX and with AD and USB audio in, could stick with a one board setup

Thought should check back in with this as post has been bumped. Its been a fair few months now with the MODX so can reflect a bit further if it helps. I have gigged less than had perhaps anticipated (who hasn't) so its mainly stayed in house. I stand by original view - its a really really FUN machine, I love the functionality (even though have used only a fraction of it), it sounds great pretty much across the board (though it leans a little heavy on dance/EDM side of things). The MIDI setup after the OS update works great and I really love the MIDI in audio as I work with a lot of backing tracks, dont think could give this functionality up in a future board. However, going back to my original post, theres no doubt the keys/keybed are by far the weakest part of this board. In terms of feel given the number of sounds you can potentially use it for I would say it is OK, but for AP less than ideal. My main gripe is how loud the keys are, I would say I perhaps have a defective unit but my research seems to indicate otherwise. Its so loud, partic on certain keys which have developed lateral movement, that playing without headphones is unpleasant. Gigging would be fine of course, but at home its frustrating to say the least. What makes it worse is that the volume level of all the pianos is so much lower on the MODX than the other sounds - its fixable of course but an odd quirk. Anyway to summarise - I still love the board, and it always keeps my attention and a smile on my face, particularly on gigs i have done with it. Its just frustrating, with such strong AP sounds how weak its keybed is. Am not sure what my next move would be, theres some stuff on the MODX I could live without in another board if it gave me a better keybed but a lot that would be reluctant to lose. Had high hopes for the RD-88 but remain unconvinced.

Have exactly the same issue and using the same key with my iLouds and my Modx - although its actually the right speaker that plays up. I found the placement of the speaker made a difference, mine are in quite tight spots but if moved them around and provided more space around them the issue seems to abate somewhat. Have even noticed that by holding the speaker aloft, as if on a stand, it also stopped buzzing entirely. It might also be worth just checking the thick connecting cable between the the speakers, ensure its connected well. Failing that if you can pan the output even just a fraction (in your case towards the right away from the faulty speaker) this also helps alleviate it. None of the above are ideal solutions - the speakers are great in general but am a bit disappointed this kind of issue is apparent at what isnt a particularly high volume

FWIW - went for the MODX in the end. Early days but think am going to love it . Keybed-wise it certainly wouldn't be for everyone. I wouldn't want to be doing a huge amount of classical/cocktail hour stuff on it, but given the amount of sounds on the machine it works "pretty good" for all so far, which is by no mean task, if not necessarily amazing for any one instrument. However my early thoughts are that everything else it offers mean theres some exceptionally awesome stuff on this board which makes adapting to any playing shortcomings very much worthwhile. Thanks again for everyones input - I can see myself potentially buying a more specific DP if a good deal comes up, but I think 80% of my time will still be spent with the MODX

samuelblupowitz - glad someone enjoys the reference, my real name is a lot less euphonious! drawback - that's a really useful comparison, your description of the KeyLab 88 is spot on - flubby is the right word for the action Found a deal for a MODX88 which is only a couple of hundred more than the Casio - so starting to seem like the one board option really is a no brainer

That's handy to know - when I asked in two local stores they had no idea and both had the P125 in!

Drawback - I see you have a Keylab 88, as do I - how does the Keybed on the MODX8 (am assuming you've tried one) compare?

Dockeys - that's really helpful to know, thanks for your input. This forum is invaluable!