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I think more and more people are connecting to computers rather than midi. I use this board mostly to control vsts but I did use the internal piano sound on a gig the other night...and it sounded quite good. I do have to adjust to the action a bit but its only on the occasional chord. If you get too far into the keybed it just doesnt feel quite right. The solution seems to be to move your hand closer to the front of the keys on these chords. Its pretty minor for me but it might be a bigger issue for some.

Yes, I meant the number of buttons/knobs that send midi, referring to using it connected directly to a computer. I did notice that the Numa drawbars did not respond to midi learn from my computer the way other controllers do...although Im no midi expert so maybe I did something wrong. I was trying to make the point that the Numa compares pretty well overall to the nord electro 3, which is a more fair comparison than comparing it to a much more expensive electro 5 or 6. I was saying this because of several comments like, well, its a decent keyboard just dont expect a nord. If you just compare internal sounds then the nord probably wins on organ, and has a slight edge on Rhodes and piano. I think the Numa Wurli is better and the Rhodes and piano arent really too far off. But as you said, comparing as a controller the Numa wins in so many ways.

Rhodes54, yes, you can plug in your Mac and it will output through the left and right outs, and/or the internal speakers. I havent tried it but the phone jack can be used as an auxiliary out. For what its worth, I sold a waterfall 73 key electro 3 to get this and Im happier with this (as a controller). The nord is better at some things, better drawbars and more programmable midi. Hopefully Numa will add more midi control with a firmware update, but theres no guarantee. But the electros in general (waterfall) are just not very good at controlling software acoustic pianos, and their internal pianos are notoriously difficult to amplify, although they seem to excell through larger house systems. But as a controller, the Numa has a bunch of advantages. The keybed is pretty similar to the electro, although I think slightly lighter and less springy which I prefer. I also recommend the 12v battery back mentioned a few pages back. $33 and it will power the 2x for a long time (at least 15-20 hrs).

Thanks! Getting mine on Thursday.

Im aware that you can run a computer vst through the onboard speakers. Im still wondering if the computer signal is also (or can be) routed through the audio outs, or through the phone jack? Or do you still need a separate audio interface?

Yeah but can you send the audio out to external speakers? I feel like I read that the phone jack could be assigned to do that, but Im not sure.

For those using this to control computer vsts, are you able to use the onboard audio interface or are you still using an external audio interface? Are you able to control vst volume from the keyboard?

Im impressed that you made it 6 minutes into that clip. There are 4 levels of string resonance and 4 levels of damper resonance if you want more sustain. It definitely makes a difference.

I dont hear plunkiness in the Casio piano sound. Its a very alive sounding piano and the notes sustain nicely. Are you guys judging based on the onboard speaker sound in a large noisy music store or what? I took my own headphones to GC but didnt have the 1/8 adapter so I ended up with a crappy pair from the store. Not ideal. Ive also seen keyboards at GC many times hooked up to those terrible sounding Roland keyboard amps. If you prefer the Roland piano sound, thats fine. However, it is sometimes easy when you already own one brand to look for a quick reason to dismiss another brand when it doesnt immediately reach some magical, non-existent standard. Ive been down the piano vst rabbit hole. Right now, I like the pianoteq Bechstein quite a bit but to be perfectly honest its only slightly better than many digital pianos.

Im thrilled again with this board now that David set me straight on the usb issue. Thanks again!! I hear the digital thing you guys are talking about in the middle but I think overall the sound is plenty good and can be worked with, certainly for live situations. I mainly wanted this for a good feeling light weight controller for piano vsts etc. For me the Casio piano is just an excellent back up for situations where I dont want to use the computer or in case I have an issue. Also I think the action is versatile enough (not too heavy) if I wanted to play a jazz organ gig or whatever. Id still be interested to upgrade if they make a 5s successor.

The audio interface is to process the sound from the computer. Plus you board directly into your computer with the USB B to A cable. Your computer then plugs into your Audio interface. If your keyboard was older and didn't have USB Midi, that is when you'd use the audio interface to connect your board to the computer i.e. Keyboard>MIDI DIN in/out>AUdio Interface MIDI DIN in/out >computer USB in. For now your easiest and cheapest is to just get the USB cable. Connect your keyboard to the computer. Are you using PC or Mac? If you want your audio from the computer to go thru an Interface there are plenty of interfaces that are USB powered for $100 and less. Don't overthink the issue Ok I think you solved my problem. I thought I had to go through the audio interface. I am using a surface pro which only has one usb...so I just need a cheap usb hub instead of a usb-b midi din thing. I knew I was missing something obvious...thanks!

is there an audio interface that incorporates this (usb-a female input)?

Yes I want to go through an audio interface instead of directly into the computer. And yes having to add a power supply is what makes it seem clunky. I can use battery power for keyboard, computer, audio interface, and even external amp. So having to plug in a usb b to midi interface seems crazy...Im sure theres a work around usb battery or something. I guess maybe I should re-evaluate the idea of going directly to the computer. Ive always heard that the audio interface is the better route though.

Thanks. Now Im reminded of why I wish this board had midi.

Can anyone recommend low cost solutions (cable or midi box) to get from the Casio (usb b) to midi (midi interface)? Most things Im finding are usb type a.

Thanks for the clarification.

For instance the GC where I bought mine now says limited stock. They only had 2 (one black and one white) when I got mine on Friday. The white one is not for sale yet so they really dont have any.

I have checked online inventories and driven across town only to find they were not correct. Its always better to call and verify. One salesperson even told me its done intentionally to get people into the store in order to sell similar items.

It took my Guitar Center guys about 10 minutes over the phone to realize they had it in stock. They were confusing it with an older Casio. They finally figured out that they had 1 white s1000 and 1 black s1000. The white one was not yet for sale. They opened up the black one for me to try and buy.

Thats fine if thats the case. Mike did not seem to be aware of it yesterday and its not mentioned in the manual.

Ok thanks at least Im not crazy...I guess we have a case of the first batch blues. It does work (disables internal speakers) if you plug something in to one of the headphone jacks.

Can someone here with an s1000 confirm whether the disable speaker (function F7) works on their board? Im trying to determine if I have a faulty unit.

Mike, I tried Function and F7. On my board this has no effect unless you also plug in to one of the headphone jacks. I just tried it again after waiting for the power up sequence to finish. I am pressing function and the highest F (F7) on the keyboard.

General thoughts after a day with the s1000... As far as the look, feel, and piano sound everything has met and even exceeded expectations. I was happy to see the music stand is included and is sturdy and easy to attach/unattach. Bluetooth audio works great and the 2 headphones jacks are a nice touch (even though I would have preferred at least one be quarter inch). Also the organs overall are a little better than expected. Acoustic bass, vibes, and strings are good but nothing amazing. Navigation is as expected...have to remember quite a few button/key combinations. Thankfully you can turn off the noises associated with choosing these functions. Alternatively, you can use the chordana play for piano app. It works fine but that uses up the usb connection. Ep 006 is the Rhodes sound..I suppose its usable but its just ok. Hopefully the s3000 has a better one for those who are waiting on that. Weird stuff...not a huge deal but it doesnt come with the full manual, just the basics one. Also you have to plug something into one of the headphone jacks to disable the internal speakers. The reverbs are all hall effects... there are no room or stage reverbs. Luckily the default hall reverb sounds really nice. Other than duet mode (piano on each side), you can only split bass to the left hand. Thats strange! All in all Im still amazed to get so much keyboard in this small package. Hopefully the s3000 will be worth the extra $$$.

So far I cant find a way to disable the internal speakers. Hopefully I am just missing something. Function F7 says Speaker Out enable/disable but it doesnt seem to affect the internal or external speakers. If anyone knows anything about this please let me know. Edit: Ok I figured out function F7 will disable the internal speakers -if- you have something plugged in to one of the headphone jacks. External speakers still work with either setting.