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1 minute ago, Tusker said:
Those of you who use the stem separators. What do you use them for? Backing tracks? Mixing practice? Something else?
I'm used them to hear something better to so I can make a similar part or I've converted to MIDI so I can get the feel. Too much stuff in packs the soul is quantized out. So mainly for reference.
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Going to interesting to see how Apple stem separator is in comparison to the others available now. I have Logic Pro for Mac, but haven't used it in a long time, been spending my time in Ableton. Okay Ableton get your butt in gear everyone else has stem separator but you!!!! Apple site says the session player was trained on 1000 of hours of bass players, I sure hope it did a deep study on James Jamerson, Chuck Rainey and Ron Carter. Okay, okay and have to have some Bootsy baby.
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My socks are still on my feet so nothing I'm going to be buying. I was hoping for more about M4 but they just covered the basics, have to wait for WWDC to hear more about the Pro and Max chips design. Logic for iPad gets stem separator so hope that comes to Logic Pro X soon. I remember when Logic for iPad came out and all the people talking about using it for away from home work, but seemed little my little most have gone back to their MacBooks. Something many rumours talked about and nothing was said about is charging. Many thought MagSafe or wireless charging would happen but no so only one port for everything. Also didn't seem to get the camera updates people were speculating either. Now to wait a month for WWDC and see what hardware gets a nod there.
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44 minutes ago, Markay said:
Sad to hear that the young top 1% are on the cusp of being offered the opportunity "of playing for the exposure" by current headline touring acts. Given what Taylor Swift grossed on her recent Australian tour there doesn't seem to be something quite right here. Life on the road is never easy, are we at the point where musos have to pay for the experience? Wonder what someone like Ray Cooper would say about this.
Link for those who may not be familiar with Ray https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Cooper?wprov=sfla1
This is nothing new I've been hearing about big name artist paying young musicians on the cheap as long as I've been around music. So instead of some cheap bar owner saying it's for "exposure", you have a big name artist doing it. Then the artists that a just a major pain in the ass to work for that as one of the female legends of rock said... musicians are a necessary evil. It sucks but sometimes you do it to get the resume fodder you need to get started.
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18 minutes ago, HammondDave said:
Have you been to a mall lately? In So Cal 1/2 of the mall stores empty shells.
Never thought malls would go out of style but seems like there are closings all over the country. People discovered ease of shopping online during covid especially with Amazon and their easy returns. The apartment complex I live in the Amazon delivery truck comes here twice a day to deliver.
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I was at Guitar Center this week with my guitarist buddy and as I told him when I get back into recording is when I'm in the drum department at GC looking for small percussion. I picked up a couple things and seeing this thread I thought one of the shakers I got might be a better way to go than egg shakers. I've seen others use them. It the MEINL Artist Series Luis Conte Shaker. It's to small plastic tube shakers that connect so they lie flat and have a small opening between the two tubes they you could hang it off a something. Also I you can get more types of shaker sounds than a egg shaker. They come in three sizes and sounds, below is the link to the large one.
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This guy.......
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I like the Diggin the Great YouTube and Patreon a lot and he's made a video on AI that I think bring up more musician focus issues. I've put the link below, but have it starting about the 8:15 point to jump over all the AI points that have been discussed here all ready.
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That's really sad seeing a family owned business go under.
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After working on a music school for about a decade that the school was known for it arranging and composing programming taught my teachers who worked in TV and film and students who went on to work in TV and film and teach composing. So been around a lot of people who work in the background as ghost writers, arrangers, orchestrator, doing media composing. I see these are the people whose jobs will be slowly disappearing to AI music. Being I spent most my life in L.A. and entertainment industry where it seems your neighbor and every third person you meet makes their living in the background of entertainment industry who will be losing jobs.
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1 hour ago, Baldwin Funster said:
I want to see how AI deals with computer viruses. Just wait until an lnsane computer virus infected robot goes on a killing spree.
Blade Runner 2025. Or worse, grows his hair long and learns to play the Hammond Organ. Don't say it can't happen. I've seen people on Instagram that I'm sure are robot hippy cycho killers.
Is Canada, or some country that is working on legislation on stop or limit to military use only of armed robots. This AI is really picking up speed faster than I expected it to. I know years ago when robotics took over auto industry they were telling displaced worker that the future is either designing robotics or learning how to repair and maintain robotics.
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So since I getting back into recording and playing guitar again I went with a buddy to Guitar Center today. For recording I picked up some percussion shakers and such then some picks. Looking around the store has less and less in store and what they have to main lowend gear, but they did have some new $$$ Gibsons. i wanted to check the keybeds out on some Arturia and NI controllers and they no longer have any open and only a couple even on the wall for sale. Other than guitars and amps might as well buy online and have it shipped to the store.
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Oh come you know it's a favorite topic for 2024. Adam Neely's made a nice video on AI, the Turing Test, and how it relates to AL music creation. I found it interesting and if you don't your can buy some Tiki torches and storm the castle.
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"U Can't Hold No Groove (If You Ain't Got No Pocket)" sayeth The Victor of Wooten
So you on a gig who do you want backing up you up someone like Conte who grooves and plays to maketh the song and the band sound good, or someone guilty of musical masterbation to only please themself???
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Natalie is doing it again making EDM backing tracks for her classical practice
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7 hours ago, J.F.N. said:
We are all (or most of us, depending on where we live) free to do what we want, I believe in a context where song writing is not just a passionate hobby, but the clock is ticking and the customer is expecting delivery, it will for sure be a really welcome workflow tool. Or when you need a bunch of songs quick for meeting up with a talent in a writing session and you're expected to have some great ideas with you already, used right this could definitely be a time saver.
But if they make AI generated non copyrightable so you're just a data entry person at that point delivering the computers output. The situations you're describing are what professional songwriters and composers have been doing for decades. One of the main qualities of those creators is they can work fast. One person I was friends with working at the music school was a ghost writer for a big name TV score team. Since the TV show didn't want to deal with clearances and such said for scenes where a radio or stereo is on to just write music that sounds like a Top 40 hit. My friend would tell his songwriting students I take more than three to five minute to write one of those tunes I'm losing money, because my main focus is the incidental music for the show. The funny part was the TV show would get contacted by viewers now and then that liked the song they heard in scene such in such asking was record was it. My friend (actually and old Jazz bass player) said I listen some Pop radio every week to hear the type of songs being played and so if someone want a quick Pop I can do it in minutes. So humans have been doing this for decades and I would say more human sounding.
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So is AI the modern day version of ghostwriter.
I was listening to a podcast that got into how much use of ghostwriters is going on. Then this AI thread and I started thinking they aren't that different they are both being something they aren't.
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Remember going to amusement parks and getting a caricature drawing of yourself that's what this AI music sounds like. Someone should tell AI computers.... Grids are for kids.
No most this AI stuff is like the 99cent Store (RIP) version of a expensive product. AI amazing now to some, but I think in long run people will want the chaos and imperfections of human made things especially in artistic matters.
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9 hours ago, stoken6 said:
My slight nuance on that: trap is of course a valid rhythmic style, and the Axis progression the basis of many great songs - but lazy overuse of them is not acceptable. I would put "Autotune as a creative effect" in the same bucket - "Believe" was at least innovative, even if you don't enjoy the resulting song/product.
"Autotune as an effect most people wouldn't notice" is like covering your food in salt and spices - you can't discern the quality of the underlying ingredients.
Cheers, Mike.
That reminded me of class in multi-threaded computer programming I took AGES ago. In the end the instructor said.... Programming with threads is like cooking with salt, I little can really enhance an dish, too much can ruin the whole meal. You could just replace "Programming in threads" with "using autotune" and it really sums it up.
I view autotune the same as I do quantization and that is perfect is boring.
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1 hour ago, CyberGene said:
Not to preach but watching YouTube, especially stuff like multi-million-sub channels, is bad. It’s the new TV. Do you mindlessly watch TV?
Awhile back the biggest subscriber channels on YT were gaming and gaming tech channels since then things spread out more. Below is the Wiki page on top 50 site and country of origin the top site 263 million subscribers then Mr Beast just under that is biggest in the USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-subscribed_YouTube_channels
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3 minutes ago, elsongs said:
Yeah...Auto-Tune, trap beats, and the I-V-vi-IV chord progression aren't inherently horrible in themselves - it's their over-use that makes them horrible.
But isn't that a constant going back forever. Some music become popular, people imitate it to make a buck, then people complain about it's over use.
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1 hour ago, jazzpiano88 said:
Can you be less secretive? Is it Al DiMeola? Al pioneered the concept of drawing in unsuspecting older musicians to pay for a home made Italian Meal and 1-1 guitar lesson and demonstration. I have heard that he is being brought up on charges in The Netherlands for violating the Human Rights of Googlers who were talked down from suicide after Al saying he hates Major Chords in response to a Google Employee in Google Talks Online. He may have gone into hiding.
If this is all true I can see why you think Rick is up to no good.
No, not Al DiMeola s much old Jazz guitarist. Because of other crap he's done after losing his first online school I really don't want to say his name. Funny though he had to guest Jazz guitarist do a few lessons on his school. The one was really great and I later started taking lesson with them and studied with them for over five years. So I guess I shouldn't be so mad at him. <grin>
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11 minutes ago, jazzpiano88 said:
One think about Beato is that I truly believe his interviews are mostly driven by his own curiosity, which is what I like. He asks a lot of questions I would ask. A lot of these people are his heros, which makes it difficult to not appear kissing someone's feet.
I would agree that RB is living out his life's dreams with the people he's been interviewing lately, because they are really not the big draws of his target demographic. RB's strength is he's mastered YouTube marketing and monetization in what he creates for his target audience, he's even mentored others on how to build up their YouTube channels. A lot of approaches he uses are similar to a big name Jazz guitarist who was on the early money maker teaching online. He knew what to say to draw in a similar demographic as to who RB targets. That why I see what RB is up to. I liked RB early on, but then started noticing him changing his approach to same at the Jazz guitarist I mentioned and that's when I losing interest in RB and don't don't watch much of his YT's anymore. RB reminds me of the old days of late night TV and the infomercials selling Ginsu knives and food choppers it all marketing game playing.
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1 hour ago, CrossRhodes said:
I want to like it, I really do but all I can see is that tiny screen and big empty space where drawbars and other controls could've been added. Looking forward to some real world reviews after people have been gigging with it a while.
My change in direction (age catching up with me) to recording focus doing Beats and simple songs I was interested in the Astrolab but same hesitations as you especially for Beats. So was thinking maybe controller and library, but now digging down more into the Akai MPC Key 37 or 61 I seeing that is what that will fit my needs best connecting to my laptop and Ableton. I think the AstroLab next generation probably will bring the missing features and a larger screen. They might of been better to make the AstroLad a module to run from controller.
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Uncomfortable (and Hilarious) Gig Moments
in The Keyboard Corner
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Being that I was a roadie for awhile for name acts and popular locals a lot women gone wild type stories. One favorite was that Yes tour I crewed on (actually a few stories from that one, but I'll just tell the one that only involved the road crew. So we're playing an outdoor concert in what we were told was an no longer used baseball park. We get the call the trucks are arriving so time to get to the venue. Were all pulling into the park and this beautiful young woman totally naked comes up to greet us and says... I like roadies!". Well the trucks pull in the crew starts getting out and for next couple hours she showed us she wasn't kidding and doing anything anyone wanted or posing for any pictures and so on. So we're setting up and definately off schedule. It get to be about time for the sound check and Yes' managers start showing up and they get the bad news we're going to be about an hour late finishing setting up. Needless to say they weren't happy and asked what happened and no one was saying anything just saying things happened and were finishing as fast as we can. So it's just before the show is going to start the managers see the young woman walking around backstage in only a pair of overalls and her overalls are completely covered in backstage passes. The one manager see her and says I think I know what slowed down the setup today and just started laughing.