johnchop

Sure. I don't do a ton of sliding or poly pressure moves on the thing. The key is to adjust the keyboard response so the intended effect is achieved with minimal effort. You could burn out a tendon or two pretty fast if you had to really lean into the thing. That said, I still wish the response curves were customizable beyond the S-curves. Honestly... haven't tried! I like wires May give it a go later. I know the feeling! There is a learning curve. I've only messed around with Equator. It's such a CPU hog on my system, and while some of the sounds are fun to play with, it's not something I feel compelled to get on with.

Well if we're going for impressive-looking, I'm all about the Schmidt. http://www.schmidt-synthesizer.com/images/gallery/schmidt_frontal_02.jpg Look at it. NO, REALLY, JUST LOOK AT IT.

That's the one!

What was the synth that had four joysticks? The name escapes me. I don't think it ever made it to production.

David, yes I think that's true to some extent. I think I need to keep in mind my own initial impressions: it's not a "universal" keyboard controller, but driving a sound that's programmed well, it allows some more organic sense of control than you'd get with aftertouch and pitch & mod sticks/paddles/wheels. So, yeah, probably not something you're hauling to the bar gig. I'm keeping mine regardless! FYI heard back from Roli support. They suggested a firmware update, but I'm already on the latest version. I took the opportunity to request more flexibility with response curves (more exponential curves than simply linear or S-curve) as well as the ability to save device configuration profiles. They've been pretty responsive with updates, so here's hoping.

Just to follow up: I monitored the Rise's messages using MIDI monitor (OS X), and found that, yes, it was difficult to trigger consistent velocities playing at what felt like a mf touch. I pinged Roli support for suggestions and urged them to consider more customizable curves. FWIW Pressure was easy to control, and ramped between 1 and 127 smooth as silk. Glide (sliding back in the keys) also responded well, although didn't seem to hit 127 consistently at the top of the keywave. More when I know it.

Yep, will do, BEFORE nudging Roli, because science!

Ask away! "Lift" (release velocity) is usually not a concern, because not many sounds are programmed to take advantage of it. I think I'd like to see gentler slopes for "Strike" (velocity), "Press" (aftertouch), and "Glide" (pitchbend). I've had a hard time getting the response in a sweet spot. I find it really hard to find a middle ground between "nothing" and "full on". I imagine I could mitigate this with some patch tweaking though. "Slide" works quite well out of the box and feels natural. I just love how Pianoteq handles curve setting. I wish the Rise implemented something akin to this. -John

Have had a Rise for a bit now. I like it for bass and lead parts. One more octave would be really welcome. I don't know that I'd go for the new 49-key model, as it's not something I like playing chords on. Some irritations: - The Rise "dashboard" software (control manager) software does not allow you to save configuration presets, which is crazy. Sometimes you want to capture certain MIDI CC configurations and response curves, and you can't save and recall them. What? (Never mind that you can't save config presets to the hardware itself.) - The response curves are not as customizable as I'd like. -John

Meaning you checked the output via Master > Utils > MIDI? If not, that should tell you what velocity the key is outputting. Second RudyS on this: dirty key contact.

I like how Shaun Martin just goes "that's it! I'm out!" And that's Shaun Martin, who is a bad, bad dude.

Apparently I missed the memo about Cyrus Chestnut. So pretty much listening to everything I can find right now. Mercy.

Now listening to echolyn "Mei" It's been a while.

I contacted the company. They are estimating September/October release in Europe. No North American distributor at this time. No pricing info.

Let's say they could improve the construction and include the M3/Kronos-61 keybed... would you pay $1599? On a side note... is the Nord Lead 4, retailing at $2,199, $900 "better"? -John PS: Apologies in advance for my US currency bias.

Makes me wonder just how much more that M3/Kronos 61 keybed costs to include, or how much weight it adds. Maybe it requires more metal? That keybed is magnificent.

Whoa. That's pretty much the ideal MIDI controller I have pictured in my head. Being able to switch among banks of controllers? Perfect. And look... hand grips on the sides! Depending on how robust the software is, I would consider selling my PC3 for this. For me that's saying a lot. I'm assuming this will be painfully expensive.

genesisfan Judging from the gear listed in your signature, I wouldn't call that humble. ABECK niiiiiiiice. I'm sure that covers all the bases exceedingly well. What are you running on the MB Pro? -John

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Good to see another Georgian here. Welcome!

FYI I used this: http://www.halleonard.com/product/viewproduct.do?itemid=310942&menuid=810&subsiteid=3&&viewtype=songlist and it provided both parts. Definitely got the major bits if not dead-on note-for-note. -John

EIGHT?! I thought it was two. Ah well, it's more than one anyway. :-) Agree that Hammond sounds great on this as well. -John

Yeah it's more brass/sax ensemble. I can't help with specific Motif patches, and in my case, we let the guitar player handle those riffs (SRV style). There's already TWO clavinet parts in the tune, so I'm busy enough as it is. Note that learning this means you'll nail down "Higher Ground" and "I Wish" soon thereafter. Stevie Wonder loves E flat minor.

Provided it has the "nothing worth stealing" paint job with some straw and bit of garden hose hanging out the back.