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Let's see - manuals, percussion tabs, drawbars, generator, AO-28 preamp... yup, it's a B-3. How does the swell pedal connect to the swell box lever?

Not seeing anything yet.

As others have pointed out, Ray did use Hammond, as well as a Continental, a G101, harpsichord, upright piano, etc. And many of the studio cuts used key bass alone, without bass guitar. For me, the sound of his combo organs was iconic and Ray (along with maybe Doug Ingle from Iron Butterfly) was the leading proponent of the psychedelic organ sound. It just wouldn't be as special for the music of that era if it was Hammond. The sustain stops of the Gibson in particular made eerie sounds that could not have been produced on Hammond, and which made songs like "The Unknown Soldier" much more powerful. But I lived thru that era and was playing combo organs and am probably biased. One thing is for sure - Hammond is a much more versatile and soulful sound. When musical styles changed, combo organs fell out of favor and thus started the age of Hammond.

Ah, the classics. I don't even have to play that video any more. The empty space in front of the bandstand tells it all.

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Seconded.

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Heh. Hollow plywood boxes. One side nestles into the other for transport. I can't believe I hauled that super awkward (non collapsible) stand for the Pianet around. I plead roadies.

I ran across this ancient pic tonight of my first Hammond, a B-2, which was also my first chop. The legs were so rickety that they were falling off already when I got it. Here it is in its first incarnation, before the custom case I built for it. This would have been about '72. http://www.hotrodmotm.com/images/slaughterhouse/Slaughterhouse_cc3.jpg

Yes, Sal Azz IS the man. Haven't talked with him in forever.

Chester uses a beautiful maple Oakland Chop with TOP (naturally), as seen on keyboardmag.tv. http://www.hotrodmotm.com/images/hammond/chesterchop.jpg When he is with Santana, he usually has something else.

I would say no, since it comes from the factory that way. I would call it a portablized Hammond though.

There is a band in Des Moines that I ran into at a street party, and the organ player had a nice compact single manual portable Hammond.

Here's my philosophy: 0. There are 2 types of projects - "chops" and "portablizing" 1. If you destroy a B-3 or C-3 cabinet in good shape, you will burn in Hammond Hell. If you destroy an M-3 cabinet in good shape, you have earned a place in Hammond Purgatory. 2. If you don't have the skills to sucessfully complete a chop or portablizing project, see #1 3. Exception to #1 - if you destroy a French Provincial cabinet, ye shall be rewarded.

Snake skin or tweed, anyone? http://bborgan.com/images/northernchop/Snakeskin%204%20side.JPEG.jpg http://bborgan.com/images/northernchop/Tweed%20Chop%20back%20corner.jpg http://bborgan.com/images/rotarycabs/Tweed%20Leslie%202.jpg

More like the Cowardly Lion. http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/MyWebFilms/Drama/WizardLionClose.jpg

That's why a doctored up version of this pic is the basis for what I expect my organ controller project to end up looking like. http://www.hotrodmotm.com/images/hammond/moe_organ.jpg

(apologies for the images to follow, you have all seen them too many times already) I chopped my first B-2, which was a rickety road warrior, then completely rebuilt it custom. I carried that organ on the road for about 8 years. It was a testbed for my chopping ideas, and for my first steps to learning electronics. Originally it was the "preamp in a box" style. Later when I built the custom case I put the preamp and tone generator in a box on the floor, and had a pianet built into the top. I had custom wiring harnesses going thru military multipin connectors. The longer wiring harnesses added a little extra crosstalk and hash to the sound, but that was rock and roll, baby! I did not have any hum problems unless a ground wire broke loose somewhere. http://www.hotrodmotm.com/images/gallery/ribbon2.jpg Later I chopped off the pianet manual and put the generator back into the main cab, leaving the preamp on the floor. At one point I also had a cast off chorus generator in there. The general experience ranged from fantastic (roadies did all the work!) to ouch (in the post-roadie era, once had to carry it up a 2 story external metal fire escape). The organ itself was never attached to legs, and was transported on its back on a purpose built dolly which had super stout casters. 2 guys could lift it onto the stand. I would estimate the weight of that piece at about 200 lbs. http://www.hotrodmotm.com/images/gallery/pile_of_keys.jpg Later on, I did a radical rebuild of an already chopped B-3. This was my so called "modular organ" which broke down into top manual/preamp, lower manual, generator, and legs. Everything was built on aluminum subframes for an attempt at maximum weight reduction. I snugged the generator back up under the manuals this time in an attempt to minimize added crosstalk. All connections between sections are made with big 100 pin ELCO connectors. This organ fit into the back of a Honda station wagon along with my regular keyboard rig (but no leslie). It was only gigged once or twice, and currently resides in a recording studio. I regard it as a failure in terms of a single person being able to move a Hammond anywhere (including stairs) because you still had a lot of heavy pieces, although the organ itself works fine. http://www.hotrodmotm.com/images/gallery/hammond1.jpg http://www.hotrodmotm.com/images/gallery/hammond2.jpg http://www.hotrodmotm.com/images/gallery/hammond3.jpg I regard Bob Schleicher's Oakland Chop to be the Cadillac of all the commercial chops that I have ever seen. Its slimline design is very elegant looking compared to the lumpy profiles of most other chops. http://www.tonewheel.com/Graphics/Chops/d_simpson.jpg http://www.tonewheel.com/Graphics/Chops/detail_internal.jpg

You win!

My worst experience was moving a large JBL PA, hammond organ, and assorted other gear for an 8 piece show band to a second story club in a weird rustic mini mall where the only access to the stage was a wrought iron exterior fire escape stair. The ceilings were really high so it seemed that we were moving almost 3 stories up. It was narrow, slippery, had a right angle turn at the top, and was rickety as all getout. I thought that we were going to rip it off the side of the building and plunge to our deaths.

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Hi gryphon, welcome to the group. Eric is our resident keeper of the old Keyboard mags, so you have some company!

Learning and practicing on acoustic piano is ideal, so it's good that you already have that covered. When you are ready, ask away about a performance keyboard. Just don't expect that you will find something decent for $200!

Did you wear your Geddy tshirt?

Hey UNB, I was a DSB (Down South Buckeye). I lived in Cinci for 5 years after I came off the road, then had to move to Columbus while getting my engineering degree from THE OSU in '89. Welcome to the forum!