MoodyBluesKeys Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 You might want to check out this thread in the Keyboard Forum: https://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2035545/We_ll_Miss_You_Ernie_Rideout#Post2035545 Look for a post by Ernie Rideout - here is a short quoted line: "Bill Leigh, editor in chief at Bass Player, was let go, too." I didn't see any postings in the Lowdown concerning this. Howard Grand|Hamm SK1-73|Kurz PC2|PC2X|PC3|PC3X|PC361; QSC K10's HP DAW|Epi Les Paul & LP 5-str bass|iPad mini2 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b5pilot Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Sheesh, that sucks. Bye Bill. Thanks for all the great articles. I will miss you. Lydian mode? The only mode I know has the words "pie ala" in front of it. http://www.myspace.com/theeldoradosband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbubba Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 That sucks. I wonder how the decision making goes in this process? "We need to save a few bucks, fire the highest paid person at Bass Player." Dumb. Bill, thanks for your contribution to the magazine. It will be missed. A stiffy somewhere in the city sewer system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMPires Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Bill thanks a lot for all the years you have contributed to BP and all the great articles. I always enjoyed to read your opening letter on the magazine www.myspace.com/davidbassportugal "And then the magical unicorn will come prancing down the rainbow and we'll all join hands for a rousing chorus of Kumbaya." - by davio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 That sucks. I wonder how the decision making goes in this process? "We need to save a few bucks, fire the highest paid person at Bass Player."..."...and hire someone who will work for a lot less money, but who won't be able to find his butt with both hands and a flashlight for some time to come." Quality work means nothing to Corporate America, nor loyalty to good people, no sense of obligation to "dance with who brung ya," only the frickin' bottom line. Gotta hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Quality work means nothing to Corporate America *snip* only the frickin' bottom line. Gotta hate it. Weren't you the one just advocating for Heir Kennymeister? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcadmus Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Um, how do you let go the editor-in-chief? "Tours widely in the southwestern tip of Kentucky" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getz out Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Bill Leigh, thanks for changing the magazine for the better during your term. Gotta hate it. Fascist. Sorry, had to get that out of the way. Generally, the good companies know how to balance growing a company for the long-term and appeasing shareholder and analyst pangs. It is not always black and white, and plenty of companies have failed or are failing because they refused to change and restructure. I am not saying this is the case with Mr. Leigh, but I think your statement paints with a very broad brush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Quality work means nothing to Corporate America *snip* only the frickin' bottom line. Gotta hate it. Weren't you the one just advocating for Heir Kennymeister? Not advocating, just mentioning a fact.Bill Leigh, thanks for changing the magazine for the better during your term. Gotta hate it. Fascist. Socialist, actually. ...I think your statement paints with a very broad brush. I'm okay with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davio Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Broad brushes get the job done faster. Sorry, need to revisit that posting hesitation thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenfxj Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 That sucks ass. I always thought Bill did a good job. Thanks Bill, and best of luck in the future. Push the button Frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catlin Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 That is too bad, Bill was the perfect spokesperson for Bass player. I guess desperate times call for drastic measures, and our editor in chief had to feel the effects. What a shame, best of luck Bill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danzilla Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 We wish you well, Bill! Sorry to see you go. "Am I enough of a freak to be worth paying to see?"- Separated Out (Marillion) NEW band Old band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red 67 Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 He did so much to improve the mag. It is sad. Big Red's Ride Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddiePlaysBass Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Has this been confirmed yet? Oh and for the record, it's not just Corporate America. Just about every enterprise in Belgium (my employer - an American bank, granted - included) is sacking people left and right. My job is not affected yet, but I give it 6 - 12 months tops. "I'm a work in progress." Micky Barnes The Ross Brown Shirt World Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy c Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I didn't believe until I saw Ernie Rideout's post on the keyboard forum. I've known Ernie for many years, he's a great guy and whoever upstairs decided to make these cuts better have an exceptional explanation. It's not as if the positions which were cut paid huge amounts of money. Free download of my cd!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul K Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 It's not as if the position which were cut paid huge amounts of money. Indeed. Here's to Bill becoming a freelancer/private contractor type fellow who ends up making more money than when he was on the payroll. He's a smart guy, and is now well connected in the business. We haven't seen the last of him yet. Things are just the way they are, and they're only going to get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getz out Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Very fair response, Chad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottom End Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 That bodes ill for Bass Player as a whole. Look at a lot of news magazines and newspapers, they have cut staff and decreased in size, because circulation and related ad revenues decrease income, but overhead remains the same. I've been subscribing to BP for about 9 years, and it's been a great source of news, and a real resource for learning. I hope that BP will be able to maintain an internet presence and a newsstand presence. If you like BP mag, subscribe, and hit up their advertisers on the their website, every click shows the advertiser that this site is worth his time and money, and BP stays in business. Otherwise, the publishers will have to make cuts, that's just sound business sense. Sorry to see Bill go, good luck to him in the future. "Call me what instrument you will, though you can fret me, yet you cannot play upon me.'-Hamlet Guitar solos last 30 seconds, the bass line lasts for the whole song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Herrera Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Hi Everybody. Making a statement here regarding Bill's departure was on my unbelievably long list of things to do, so please know it was on the agenda. You guys have always been an excellent resource for insight, advice, and a feeling of satisfaction that the magazine is making a positive impact on people's playing lives. Anyway, thanks. Regarding Bill leaving...um...it sucks. It is for all the same reasons that underlie the general state of suckiness in the economy, and the ownership of our company is feeling the pinch big time, both from decreased ad revenue and an unwillingness on behalf of the banks to negotiate debt. This all adds up to a serious need to save money in order to survive. Does that mean I agree with the choices? Not at all. But that's the deal. In addition to losing a close friend and colleague, the magazine has lost a powerful editorial voice and visionary. It's an enormous loss. Going forward, I'm assuming most of Bill's responsibilities. I'll be shepherding the magazine going forward, writing the editor's letter, etc. Working here as long as I have, I obviously have a lot of ideas that I'm excited to see come to fruition; just sucks that it's happening under these circumstances. My job description is now fairly outrageously heinous, from a workload perspective. Oh well; I'm gainfully employed, and am thankful. Please stay in touch with any and all comments and concerns, and keep the story ideas coming. Thanks Jonathan Herrera Senior Editor Bass Player jherrera@musicplayer.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moot Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 "...and hire someone who will work for a lot less money, but who won't be able to find his butt with both hands and a flashlight for some time to come." Sounds to me like he has a handle on it. Good luck Jonathan - dems some big shoes. "He is to music what Stevie Wonder is to photography." getz76 I have nothing nice to say so . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Capasso Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Jon, Thanks for posting. I'm sorry to hear about Bill. I look forward to what you will bring to the magazine. I'm sure after losing Greg and Bill, you'll be short on time to think and organize. Of course, this does give you more reason to send me equipment to review... www.stoneflyrocks.com Acoustic Color Be practical as well as generous in your ideals. Keep your eyes on the stars and keep your feet on the ground. - Theodore Roosevelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Thorne Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Jonathan, Despite what I said above, I feel sure that you actually can find your butt with both hands and a flashlight. Good luck with all your new responsibilities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbubba Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Good luck, Jonathan! I think you'll do a fantastic job! Too bad it had to come this way, though. Probably puts you in an awkward position when talking to Bill. A stiffy somewhere in the city sewer system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cthulhu Fhtagn Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Ya got some shoes to fill, John. I wish you luck. Bill, where ever you land, hope it's on two feet. I have a cost-cutting idea; stop sending me renewal notices when there's six to eight months left on my subscription. I'll renew, trust me. Think of the postage you'll save. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil W Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Ouch! Good luck Jonathan. http://philwbass.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloe Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I let my subscription expire. The last straw was the review of some multi-thousand dollar bass that was has numerous design and construction flaws, but they gave it a positive review. Every product reviewed is great no matter what it's flaws or price tag. I can turn on QVC for free and watch shills hawking products. I understand that the magazine needs to generate income and advertisements and product reviews are part of that processes, but those product reviews must have a ring of truth to them or it all becomes just another info-mercial. So personally I think that the magazine needed a shake up, and hopefully the result will be a magazine that provides honest product reviews and interviews that aren't just edorsements for the artist's latest cd/dvd and some music education. Sorry to bring down this thread, but I really would like to see the new EiC move the magazine in this direction. I would then think about buying a subscription. Bass, the final frontier... http://www.myspace.com/johnnyandtheboomers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMPires Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Top tip from Frank There's no need to send letter all the way to europe to renew, send me an email one month before and I'll be happy. www.myspace.com/davidbassportugal "And then the magical unicorn will come prancing down the rainbow and we'll all join hands for a rousing chorus of Kumbaya." - by davio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juancarlin Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Bill will surely be missed, but at the same time Jonathan has been doing a great job on BP, so I think (and hope) it will be smooth and nice for everyone. Hope to hear from Bill soon, and best wishes to Jonathan!! Keep up the good work, buddy! Brought to you by Juancarlin. www.juancarlinmusic.com http://www.youtube.com/JuanCarlinMusic www.facebook.com/JuanCarlinMusic Instagram: @JuanCarlinMusic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCutthroat Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Yeah I sure as hell am gonna miss Bill's work. His writing at his best was, in one word, inspiring. I think this was a poor decision by those that write the checks. I may consider canceling my script in protest and tell them. Losing business because they sh!t-canned a beloved staff member is a poor "cost-saving measure". Carvin Bunny Brunel Signature 5 String, ESP LTD 5 String, Ampeg SVT3, Ampeg 4x10 and 1x18 www.captaincutthroat.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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