Tedly Nightshade Posted June 16, 2002 Share Posted June 16, 2002 Hey folks, around here we're doing a scale of the day, to get comfortable under the fingers on whatever instruments are handy, over here guitar, piano, vibraphone, trumpet, in all twelve keys. I thought I'd post 'em as they come up just for the hell of it. A lot of these are gapped scales, which effect the fingering on piano and vibes a lot more than on trumpet and guitar, but they are modes in their own right, and have their own character, and harmonic implications. Here's yesterday's and today's. Name them whatever you please. C-Dflat-E-F-G-Bflat-C C-D-Eflat-F-Aflat-C Of course these have modes of their own, that's why we can only handle one a day over here... Ted A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedster Posted June 16, 2002 Share Posted June 16, 2002 Wish I had me guitar here so I could pick thru those. "Cisco Kid, was a friend of mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryrobinett Posted June 16, 2002 Share Posted June 16, 2002 I like that first one. Dominant Flat 9 Syrian thing. Cool Ted! All the best, Henry Robinett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip_dup1 Posted June 17, 2002 Share Posted June 17, 2002 This is a good motivation to get back into Slonimsky`s Thesaurus. I`ll find something fun for tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted June 17, 2002 Author Share Posted June 17, 2002 Yesterday's over here: C-D-Eflat-A-B-C a close relative of the one from the day before. The keys player came up with that, the big leap is a puzzle on the keys. I look forward to what the Thesaurus has to say! Ted A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted June 17, 2002 Author Share Posted June 17, 2002 Yum, I like today's entree: C-Dflat-E-G-Aflat-B-C Has an unnerving tendency to want to make Dflat the tonic... Thinking up cool scales can be an enjoyable way to procrastinate on actually practicing! Ted A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip_dup1 Posted June 18, 2002 Share Posted June 18, 2002 Here`s an extended scale, based on a ditone (two whole notes, or a major third). The basic scale is spelled C-E-G#-C, and single notes have been interpolated, that is, added between the principal tones. Enjoy! C-Eb-E-F-G#-A-C-Db-E-F-G#-A-C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted June 19, 2002 Author Share Posted June 19, 2002 We went with the first octave of that today- I hereby dub it the "Lady Madonna" scale! Ted A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrave Posted June 24, 2002 Share Posted June 24, 2002 OK, I can take a joke as well as anybody. But what's this bit about making up scales as you go? From the little bit I've read, scales conform to melodic harmonies as predicted by theory. SO all of a sudden you guys are stringing together 6 or 7 or 8 different notes and saying you've just invented a scale? Why not just work with the chromatic scale and say there are no others? Now you are creating melodies and calling them "scales". Why not call the notes in the melody for "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" a scale? What's the difference between the notes used in a melody and a scale other than the melody has no requirement to go up and then come back down? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ME: "Nobody knows the troubles I've seen!" Unknown Voice: "The Shadow do!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted June 25, 2002 Author Share Posted June 25, 2002 "OK, I can take a joke as well as anybody. But what's this bit about making up scales as you go? From the little bit I've read, scales conform to melodic harmonies as predicted by theory. SO all of a sudden you guys are stringing together 6 or 7 or 8 different notes and saying you've just invented a scale? Why not just work with the chromatic scale and say there are no others? Now you are creating melodies and calling them "scales". Why not call the notes in the melody for "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" a scale? What's the difference between the notes used in a melody and a scale other than the melody has no requirement to go up and then come back down? " Well there's nothing new under the sun- anything I come up with has been done before and I'll find it somewhere. I enjoy the different colors of the different modes and scales, including gapped ones, too much to just call it all chromatic, although people have done that. The notes you don't play determine the color and mood as much as the ones you do play. That's a big one for me, I rely on it. A scale gives you something to make a melody of- it's not music in it's own right. Hopefully the melody is! A scale is just a bag of notes, most easily expressed in ascending and descending form. There's no music in this thread- just some group of notes to play as scales or hopefully use to make some actual music. Ted A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip_dup1 Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 Here`s out next chewable melodic vitamin-be sure to wash it down with some variation! The previous scale was based on a major third-two whole tones. This scale is based on a minor third-1-1/2 semitones, or the division of an ocatve into four equal parts. Slonimsky`s Thesaurus refers to this interval as a sesquitone. A minor third, of course, can be one whole tone followed by one semitone or vice versa. This scale is constructed as alternating whole and semitones. The basic scale is spelled, C-Eb-F#-A-C. Single notes have been ultrapolated, that is, added above the principal tones. It`s a bit intervallic, so give those fingers a stretch. Note that it starts to descend midway through. C-F-Eb-Ab-F#-B-A-D-C-F-Eb-Ab-F#-B-A-D-C-F-Eb-Ab-F#-B-A-D-C-D-A-B-F#-Ab-Eb-F-C-D-A-B-F#-Ab-Eb-F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted June 27, 2002 Author Share Posted June 27, 2002 Having trouble with this one, Skip... Does it start with leaps of fourths and sevenths, or are we doing a little downward stepping all along? Seems like we're eating up the octaves like nuts here. I'm trying to follow it. Ted A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip_dup1 Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Ted- Yes, it`s downward stepping. We`re going to the ultrapolated tone, then stepping back. Next third up, to the ultrapolated tone, then stepping back. It should be an up-back up a third-back up a third back kinda feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedly Nightshade Posted June 28, 2002 Author Share Posted June 28, 2002 Ok, I'll give it another stab! A WOP BOP A LU BOP, A LOP BAM BOOM! "There is nothing I regret so much as my good behavior. What demon possessed me that I behaved so well?" -Henry David Thoreau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip_dup1 Posted July 2, 2002 Share Posted July 2, 2002 anyway, here^s something hopefully a little more digestible... this one`s called the Balinese scale- C-Db-Eb-G-Ab-C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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