Jazz+ Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I want to ask the Kawai MP8 owners if each consecutive note shares a uniform tone quality and character with its neighbor note. When I played physicaly modeled pianos I noticed that each note sounds like the the neighboring note as if it has been transposed, they have a uniform tone quality. I notice on sampled pianos, such as the Roland RD-700SX that each note has a different sample and different character. Harry Likas was the Technical Editor of Mark Levine's "The Jazz Theory Book" and helped develop "The Jazz Piano Book." Find 700 of Harry’s piano arrangements of standards for educational purposes and jazz piano tutorials at www.Patreon.com/HarryLikas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbyte Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Regarding the KAWAI Harmonic Imaging: It is still based on an individual sample for each note, however the dynamic response of the harmonic content is what is modeled, based on Velocity. SO it is not as if the computer just kicks out a generic bunch of numbers that spell "PIANO NOTE" - there is is still individuality to each note. What makes this such a wonderful system is that as you play at different dynamic levels, there is no apparent sample switching, becuase the Modelled tonal character is continuously changing. For me, this is what makes the Kawai so expressive in the soft-mid-dynamic region. - Frost "Doing things is how things get done" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbyte Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Dopple Post, sorry "Doing things is how things get done" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leavity Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 So Frostbyte's reply would also apply to the Kawai ES4, also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOPBEEPER Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Well on the ES4 I do hear some difference in sound quality between some notes when im feelingpicky but not when im actally making music.Didn't notice that on my mate,s MP8 though, maybe cause that action is so wonderfull.The ES4 action is a bit light. I are an *******(CENSORED) too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burningbusch Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Funny, when I demoed the MP8 I'm pretty sure I heard at least one velocity switch point on the acoustic piano patches. I'll have to try it again. Busch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara C Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Each note is an individual. As best I can tell. The region about C5 is especially noticable. It definitely has some of the individuality of a hand tuned piano in it. But the variation is very small, you only hear it if you concentrate carefully. The behavior at the last damper is exactly like an acoustic piano. Sometimes people complain to Kawai "the damper doesn't quite work right at this key..." to which Kawai replies "try it on an acoustic grand, that is how it is supposed to sound." It's ironic, because in an "ideal" piano the damper transition would be totally gradual, and there'e no doubt Kawai could do that if they wanted in their MP8, but then they would get complaints from OTHER pianists that the damper behavior was "artificial" and "too smooth". I guess they could make it programmable. Most pianists don't know what an acoustic grand piano really sounds like, sadly. Piano: Kawai MP8; Interest: classical, self-taught. Occupation: electronics engineer 25 yrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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