Sharon Posted February 17, 2001 Share Posted February 17, 2001 Hi people I have a simple question and maybe not. Is there a way to mach between the LFO speed and the BPM of the track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted February 17, 2001 Share Posted February 17, 2001 This not easy to answer. Of course you can calculate the Hz to BPM, but shows the display of your synth the rate in Hz? Or another difficulty: what about if your LFO is a free running type? ------------------ -- Pim -- www.dancewave.nl My Music I always wondered what happened after the fade out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon Posted February 20, 2001 Author Share Posted February 20, 2001 Pim thanks for the help,my synth is YAMAHA AN1x,and i take a look to the manual the range of LFO Speed is -64/+64 but i dont know if its Hz cause the manual dont show it. anyway if you know the formula for Lfo/Bpm write it please maybe the range in Hz. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted February 20, 2001 Share Posted February 20, 2001 Originally posted by Sharon: my synth is YAMAHA AN1x,and i take a look to the manual the range of LFO Speed is -64/+64 but i dont know if its Hz cause the manual dont show it. Very few current mass-produced synths let you edit parameters such as LFOs, filters, envelopes etc. with anything other than 0-99 type arbitrary values that don't tell you beans about what they're really doing. Kurzweil V.A.S.T synths and the Alesis Andromeda are the only ones out right now that I can think of that actually do display parameters with their correct values. I am surprised that the AN1X doesn't allow you to sync its LFOs to an external clock... dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted February 20, 2001 Share Posted February 20, 2001 True, the An1x does not allow you sync LFO speeds to clock........and none of the values are 'real world'. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/frown.gif However the four free envelope generators can do any shape repeatedly, on virtually any parameter and can be synced to Midiclock. I suggest you try them. I find them a lot of fun. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif One easy way to get started with them is to use Gary Gregson's AN1X Edit software. The program lets you draw in any waveshape by hand, or template. With four of these things looping on a variety of destinations from filter type to oscillator sync pitch, you can create a bunch of rude rhythmic mayhem. Or just do th-th-things like flutters and stutters. Hope this helps, Jerry This message has been edited by Tusker on 02-19-2001 at 06:40 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABECK Posted February 20, 2001 Share Posted February 20, 2001 Originally posted by Dave Bryce: Very few current mass-produced synths let you edit parameters such as LFOs, filters, envelopes etc. with anything other than 0-99 type arbitrary values that don't tell you beans about what they're really doing. Kurzweil V.A.S.T synths and the Alesis Andromeda are the only ones out right now that I can think of that actually do display parameters with their correct values. My JV-1080 lets you set a global BPM for each patch. Then you can set the LFO's to quarter notes, eigth notes, etc... It is really very handy and I've never had a problem matching an LFO to a song tempo (you can also set the tempo of the patch to incoming MIDI clock) On the other hand, My FS1R has arbitrary values for LFO's. In that case, you just have to ue your ears. It can be hit or miss. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bryce Posted February 20, 2001 Share Posted February 20, 2001 Originally posted by ABECK: In that case, you just have to use your ears. It can be hit or miss. Matching tempo by ear is actually pretty easy...even easier if you retrigger the sound here and there (assuming, of course, that the LFO isn't freerunning, as Pim mentioned above). I got real used to doing it with the QS series, which doesn't allow you to sync nuthin' to nuthin'. Jerry - I find it even more interesting that the AN1X will let you do esoteric MIDI clock tricks with the EGs, but don't let you lock up the LFOs, which I would think was a relatively important little detail to omit. I wonder what the thinking was behind that decision... dB ==> David Bryce Music • Funky Young Monks <== Professional Affiliations: Royer Labs • Music Player Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tusker Posted February 20, 2001 Share Posted February 20, 2001 Originally posted by Dave Bryce: Jerry - I find it even more interesting that the AN1X will let you do esoteric MIDI clock tricks with the EGs, but don't let you lock up the LFOs, which I would think was a relatively important little detail to omit. I wonder what the thinking was behind that decision... Dave: I think the unit was designed thoroughly but inappropriately for the market. The synth just doesn't fit well into an analog polysynth mindset. Just like their ventures into formant and fm, Yamaha decided to push the envelope and make a digitally minded-synth that had some analog timbres....rather than a virtual analog which recreated analog capabilities (like the JP's and Nord Leads). This is why I like the synth. Some of the digitally-minded idiosyncracies: > Pretty detailed synth engine, hidden behind menus... real time control only available for basic parameters. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/eek.gif > Free EG's that make this machine great for pads, MIDI sync'd effects and modular style sequencing. Also good for curved envelopes, if you are into that. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif > LFO's that won't sync to MIDI http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/frown.gif > LFO1 has a choice of 21 waveforms, but LFO2 is fixed at sine. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/confused.gif > Morphing between sounds (all synth engine parameters) http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/cool.gif > Oscillators can be tuned to or morphed continously to any position between sine and their shape (Saw, pulse and some mixed waveforms) http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/smile.gif > All waveform pulsewidths can be continously tuned or morphed(including saw waves) http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I think the feature set is unusual, which is why many people still keep these first generation VA's around. Regards, Jerry PS: Ok, I think I have tried all the smilies. http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/redface.gif This message has been edited by Tusker on 02-20-2001 at 02:25 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABECK Posted February 20, 2001 Share Posted February 20, 2001 Originally posted by Dave Bryce: Matching tempo by ear is actually pretty easy...even easier if you retrigger the sound here and there (assuming, of course, that the LFO isn't freerunning, as Pim mentioned above). I got real used to doing it with the QS series, which doesn't allow you to sync nuthin' to nuthin'. Yeah,I'm sorry - if the tempo is speedy, and you retrigger frequently, It is workable. Long sweeping pads - that's where the problem lies, I guess. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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